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It is probably due to a number of people stopping using their alts after some instance hopping.

Also a few people who came to see how it was, and weren’t attracted enough to become regular visitors.

Curious to see at which number we’ll stabilize.

Next peak will probably happen after either major features release (e.g. exhaustive mod tools allowing reluctant communities to move from Reddit) or the next Reddit fuck up (e.g. removing old.reddit)

Stats on each server: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

  • Polar@lemmy.ca
    2·
    10 months ago

    I dropped off because I am unbelievably sick of seeing the same thing posted across 20 different communities. No matter which sort I am using, my front page is CLUTTERED with the same crap.

  • leanleft@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1·
    5 months ago

    undo the maximalist==better preconception.
    (**not directed at op or NE1)
    less users has pros and cons (imo).

  • Margot Robbie@lemm.ee
    1·
    10 months ago

    And at the beginning everyone was worried about “Eternal September”. It’s only been two months.

    People will come in waves, instances and communities will grow and die, just like how it was on reddit, we’ll probably start seeing meme/politics free or even more specialized instances soon. But all of this is going to take time.

    The turning point will be when companies/websites start spinning up their own Lemmy instances as their official one to replace their forums, which I think will happen.

    So, being on Lemmy is a long term investment for me.

    • FoxBJK@midwest.socialEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      The turning point will be when companies/websites start spinning up their own Lemmy instances as their official one to replace their forums, which I think will happen.

      I don’t know if this is going to happen, and to be honest I hope it doesn’t. Lemmy is not designed to be a forum and shouldn’t try to be used as a replacement for one.

        • FoxBJK@midwest.socialEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          Lemmy is a link aggregator. Yes it can serve a lot of (if not all) the functions of a forum but it’s not designed to be a drop-in replacement for something like Discuss or phpBB. It’s different enough that I feel like calling it a forum is not the right term.

            • aka_oscar@beehaw.org
              1·
              10 months ago

              Id say finding the latest comment is harder here. Sure, its not that hard when looking post replies. But comment replies? They can be nested, pretty much buried behind the “See more replies” button.

                • aka_oscar@beehaw.org
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  Oh i wouldnt say its worse at all. I prefer nested replies all the way. Regardless, i still wouldnt say lemmy fits the forum format, again due to the way you access the most recent replies.

                  In a forum thread, you go to the last page and youve found the latest comment. In a Lemmy post, even if the nested comments arent hidden, its not obvious at first glance which one is the latest comment.

                  Also, if you “bookmark” a forum thread, youll get notified of any new replies in said thread. On Lemmy, you can check the latest comments from an entire instance or community. But not for a specific post.

                  Again, id never phrase lemmys format as worse, for i greatly prefer it. But i wouldnt consider it a forum. It simply displays the information diferently

      • Margot Robbie@lemm.ee
        1·
        10 months ago

        Hopefully this works out, gotta get that first mover advantage in, then Lemmy’s only real celebrity will be recognized as the marketing genius that she is. :)

        I like Lemmy better when it’s when it’s nicer and quieter a month ago honestly.

        • Wahots@pawb.social
          0·
          10 months ago

          Are you the actual Margot Robbie? Seen your profile before, but just assumed it was someone who liked them and was capitalizing on the movie.

          • Margot Robbie@lemm.ee
            2·
            10 months ago

            Well, the movie promotion ended early due to the strike, so I’m just shitposting and having fun here now.

            It’s good to keep plausibile deniability. I don’t want to get bad PR in case things don’t work out.

            No one will ever believe you anyways.

            • Margot Robbie@lemm.ee
              1·
              10 months ago

              And have the paparazzi scrutinize me over every single dumb comment I ever post here? No thanks.

              If I wanted that, I would have just got a Twitter with a blue checkmark, and I really don’t like Twitter.

  • imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee
    0·
    10 months ago

    Pretty sure it’s going to just be like 12 of us. If the third party app thing on reddit didn’t drive users here, unfortunately I don’t think anything else will. At this point if you are already content with the reddit app it’s going to be a hard sell to say, yeah come check out Lemmy, it’s like reddit but if you have a question about your sick betta fish instead of getting a helpful answer in a few minutes, you need to first create a betta fish community, then go back on reddit and recruit users to your Lemmy community. Post content on it daily to maintain interest, and then, if you are really lucky, ask your question and wait a few months and maybe if your fish is still alive (doubtful), you might get a response, but it will probably be just be an anticapitalist shit-post. I’m sorry to say it is this way, but this be the way that it is.

    • Venus [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      01·
      10 months ago

      Pretty sure it’s going to just be like 12 of us

      Hexbear has been very active for 3 years before we even federated. There’s plenty of room for growth. We’re not going to become reddit (and that’s a good thing) but acting like it’s just going to die (or is already dead) is just ridiculous

      • imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee
        0·
        10 months ago

        Hexbear has become a cesspool. Not exactly a great example to aspire to. I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I’m sure plenty of others do to. Im just disappointed that it seems much more likely that Lemmy fizzles than soars. I can’t emphasize enough how big and bad a deal the stripping of third party API access to reddit data is. I wish more people felt more strongly about this beyond posting pictures of John Oliver. Not sure if you are old enough to remember when high quality RSS feeds were a thing, but this direct access to data that users could custom curate was amazing. When you take control of how users consent data, you start to take control of the users. Lemmy has immense potential and at face value people are largely fed up with being manipulated and taken advantage of by internet giants, but most are clearly not fed up enough to leave their comfort zone. Spez and the others are well aware of this and happy to take advantage. It takes a ton of effort to keep something like Lemmy afloat. Just like a new restaurant, if after a few months it’s not taking off, it’s pretty unlikely to do so with more time. I hope I’m wrong, but the Spez nonsense was a huge gift to growing Lemmy, and in the grand scheme of things the effect was quite small.

        • Venus [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          01·
          10 months ago

          Hexbear has become a cesspool

          Hexbear is an aggressively inclusive space full of thoughtful people who are passionate about making the world a better place and educating their fellow man. If every online space were more like hexbear we’d all be much better off

          I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I’m sure plenty of others do to

          Oh yeah back in the good old days of /r/jailbait and /r/creepshots and /r/sexwithdogs

          • LoopingRiver@lemm.ee
            0·
            10 months ago

            Lol… so inclusive wanting to bring down America, listing out a bunch of people you’d love to get rid of (anyone you consider bourgeoise), unyielding fanboying of China…

            I think the overall Lemmy experience has gone downhill since hexbear federated. I also think seeing the propaganda posts constantly hitting the All feed will drive people away. Are there even any non-political hexbear communities? All I ever see are anti-is and pro-China posts.

            I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China. Not the most stellar LGBTQIA+ record there.

            • Venus [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
              01·
              10 months ago

              Everything is political. We have comms that we don’t consider political, but you would still consider them political because you would rather they cater to your politics rather than ours. We have !games@hexbear.net for example, but because it’s not a liberal comm you would consider it political.

              I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China

              You’re literally professing your support for trans rights and simping for the US in one comment so you must be mega confused

  • Oppawaifu@lemmy.sdf.org
    0·
    10 months ago

    There is no infinite doomscroll on Lemmy and that’s what I used to do on Reddit. Now, I just read the top headlines and touch grass :)

  • rusticus@lemm.ee
    0·
    10 months ago

    I can tell you the drop in active Lemmy users was NOT from hexbear and lemmy.grad. Those trolls are worse than the_donald was on the other platform.

  • clearleaf@lemmy.ca
    0·
    10 months ago

    Tankies and American democrats are scaring away the hoes. Source: I’m a hoe that has barely been coming here lately. There’s not enough people here for niche communities to thrive, and the front page has been getting worse and worse. Today I saw this post on the front page, pretty close to the top.

    https://lemmy.ca/post/3725038

    I’d like to be clear that I don’t care who americans voted for 7 years ago, but that’s not why I don’t think I should be seeing this. It’s just, sheesh man. THIS is what the community wants and thinks is important in 2023? I’m trying to find a niche amongst THIS?

    It’s very similar to my problem with Gemini and every other “alt tech” platform I’ve tried to join. Worst case scenario it becomes a sewer for everyone who got banned from other sites for political extremism. Best case scenario, you end up with nothing but the demographic of upper class americans who do nothing but sit on their computers all day, which is not my scene either.

    I’m starting to wonder if I should just leave the internet altogether.

  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
    0·
    10 months ago

    There are many fatal problems on Lemmy, worst of all is you can’t click this link /c/books and see every /c/book on every Lemmy instance of the fediverse. This is out of convenience to moderators and it is killing Lemmy. One people figure out communities only exist on a single instance, the promise of federation is broken and they fuck off.

            • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
              1·
              10 months ago

              Do you not feel the same is true with Reddit?

              • Downvoted perfectly good and reasonable comments. Some are the correct answers because you know a lot about a particular thing in the world.

              • Downvoted perfectly good and reasonable submissions

              • Reddit mods shadow banning your submissions/comments

              • Reddit mods deleting your submissions/comments and/or locking them.

              • People in general just being asses.

              I’m not saying that Lemmy is perfect but it feels like both can have a similar vibe. A lot of Lemmy people were/still are Reddit people and so it makes sense that both have similar vibes.

    • OrangeSlice@lemmy.mlEnglish
      0·
      10 months ago

      Key difference is that Bitcoin people want/need their numbers to go up,up,up as a measure of success.

      Here, we are hoping to cultivate a healthy community (at either/both the instance and fediverse level). From my experience on various subreddits, focusing on growth is not a good way to do this.

      Communities are defined more by who is not allowed in than by who is in the community. Lemmy phase 2 kicked off back in June, and it still needs some time to find its footing at a sustainable rate of growth.

      • SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de
        01·
        10 months ago

        Key difference is that Bitcoin people want/need their numbers to go up,up,up as a measure of success.

        Nah, you’re making the mistake of only paying attention to bitcoin short term when the price goes up, so you only perceive people who get in short term while the number goes up.