Channel 4 News reports that it found “no evidence to support its explosive new claim” by Israel that employees of United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) participated with Hamas in the October 7th attacks.

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    According to the document, which has sparked international controversy, approximately 190 Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad operatives were identified as UNRWA employees, based on “intelligence information, documents and identity cards” seized during military operations. However, the document stops short of providing concrete evidence to support its allegations.

    Headline: There is no evidence!

    Article. There is no evidence… other than the evidence that Hamas members had UN employee ID cards.

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      It sounds like the document says “We know some of these Hamas guys worked for UNWRA. We totally found, like IDs and shit. Definitely. Trust us on that.”

      However, the document stops short of providing concrete evidence to support its allegations.

      The document claims they have evidence, but doesn’t actually include any of it.

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        Again, you simply don’t believe anything Israel claims. That’s not the same as there being “no evidence.”

        Also be aware intelligence is involved with this. Countries don’t share intelligence with random news channels. Intelligence is only shared with trusted allies because if information gets out to the public, it can compromise intelligence sources.

        So it’s very telling that the countries that Israel would be willing to share intelligence with immediately stopped funding UNWRA, despite the political consequences for doing so.

        But people incapable of seeing Israel (and all the allies of Israel) as anything other than genocidal monsters will refuse to think about anything that doesn’t conform to the narrative that they use as the foundation for determining what’s real. It really doesn’t matter ff there were a 4K video of someone showing the camera their UN ID badge while murdering a Jewish baby, it would just be considered a fabrication of “those scheming Jews.” You can’t convince people that feel like being unconvincable makes them loyal members of a cause they don’t understand.

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          You:

          Countries don’t share intelligence with random news channels

          vs.

          The article she told you not to worry about:

          the six-page Israeli intelligence document sent to donors

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      Technically if they had found the identity cards on Hamas then it would be considered evidence. That’s not what it says, though. It says the identity cards were confiscated during Israeli Military Operations. Just like when Israel bombed a hospital filled with children and claimed it was a Hamas Base.

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        So why not just say the truth? “We refuse to believe any evidence Israel provides on anything”?

        Seems more honest and more efficient.

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          Pot calls the Kettle willfully ignorant. Pot claims Israel’s word alone should be good enough to slaughter tens of thousands, leaving hundreds of thousands to starve.

          You know why Israel can’t provide the “Evidence” to the public? Because they’ve got nothing.

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            You know why Israel can’t provide the “Evidence” to the public?

            Because it would compromise intelligence sources? Countries don’t share intelligence with anyone, only with other countries they trust. Those countries immediately stopped funding the UNWRA, despite the political cost of doing so.

            Even the UN fired some people and launched a probe into it. Seems the UN doesn’t think “they’ve got nothing.”

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              The cited intelligence sources were literally armed troops confiscating items from occupied territory. Why would they need protection? From what? They’re not hiding from anything.

              Only 9 nations withdrew funding, the largest of which was the USA with roughly half the budget cuts total amount.