• halfelfhalfreindeer@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    These are pretty common products. There are tons of ethical alternatives, in fact personal care items are among the easiest and cheapest products to find ethical alternatives for and a good starting point if you want to develop more ethical consumption habits. You don’t need to make your own soap in order to avoid sponsoring genocide.

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        Frankly that’s an excuse, and a lazy one at that. Ethical products are widely available outside of the US, and I say this as a digital nomad who has lived on three continents and lived in the US for less than a year in total. If the inconvenience is unbearable for you then that’s your prerogative, but don’t try to justify it by saying things that simply aren’t true and thereby discouraging others.

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          1 year ago

          Can you provide some links so we have a starting point? Simply googling Ethical Shampoo is going to bring about a disheartening and probably half fake onslaught of results that would be nearly impossible to sort through.

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          Not everyone can afford such alternatives. It isn’t simply a matter of inconvenience, it’s a matter of access and expense.

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            also a crap excuse… P&G don’t make cheap products; they make brand name products… plenty of home brand stuff is cheap, and doesn’t actively support russias genocide

            there are other discussions to be had about environmental impact, pay gap, etc but that’s not what we’re discussing

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              I’m referring to ones that are made by non-controversial companies. It’s difficult to find products that aren’t made by the same companies just under a different name. Finding ethical alternatives isn’t as simple as “don’t buy P&G”, and isn’t cheap either

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                there are (at least) 2 things that boycotts are meant to do:

                • directly deny funding to the company which will pass that onto “causes” you disagree with
                • make a statement that you and others disagree with decisions the company is making

                in the first point, switching to a different brand produced by the same company clearly does nothing unless the at product has a lower margin (which isn’t even unlikely either: plenty of brands do the “budget”, “midrange”, “luxury” brand concept and budget is where they make their least overhead)

                on the second however, that’s where you can maybe make a difference… if a company starts to see market share dip in their big name products, that’s problematic for them even if people are switching to other products in their line that are less well known, because it shows that people have more negative attitudes to their brands