There’s not much information about xAI, but diversity is already an issue

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    Why would they even put him on the list of employees this fucker literally does nothing all day then underpays people smarter than him to enrich himself and take all the credit?

    Do you really think he designed Anything of value to any of his companies besidea captial?

    The lady im charge of spacex probably hates him
    Tesla execs probably hate him

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      Elon is an asshole but he isn’t an idiot as some would claim.

      There are multiple quotes from aerospace engineers that do and don’t work for him noting he understands and contributes.

      John Carmack who is considered a world class coder and also had a rocket company has publicly stated Elon both knows rockets and coding.

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        Elon does seem to be able to speak at least on some level about rocket design. His statements and very public beefs with his own engineers at Twitter however demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of coding for large scale infrastructure like Twitter.

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          He has a team of skilled coders. If you follow some of the complaints about twitter you find out the infrastructure is kinda fed up.

          Apparently programmers where getting incentives for how many libraries they created and how often they where used.

          This lead to reinventing basic things like load balancers and web servers from scratch vs very optimized open source solutions. Essentially reinventing the wheel instead of new features .

          George Hotz known for various coding and hacking projects was there and did an interview recently where he discuss how the code base was next to impossible to maintain in its current state at Twitter.

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          STEM Self-Importance Syndrome, where knowledge in one aspect of STEM leads someone to believe they have knowledge and understanding of EVERYTHING even though there’s actually a lot of big differences between Rocket Science and Computer Programming.

          Rocket scientists are pretty susceptible to this because “It’s not rocket science” is an actual phrase used to mean “this job is easy.” Computer science is not rocket science, but it’s not easy either and it’s not something a rocket scientist can just jump in and do.

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            See also Stockton Rush, who thought because he studied aerospace, he knew what he was doing going into the ocean.

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              Appropriate that he named the company Oceangate, since that’s what any scandal would be nicknamed.

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        Elon is an asshole but he isn’t an idiot as some would claim.

        It’s honestly too difficult to tell since he’s constantly grifting and lying his way through life. For immediate example, he was making some fairly false statements about how rapidly his team “could colonize mars”. To seem impressive and “make the sale”, he threw out some wild number of how many colonists they could get settled by a certain year (number was maybe a million, timeline was maybe 2050, I’m forgetting at this point) but the moment anyone who was actually good at math, astronomy, engineering or rocket science examined that number and timeline it was clearly bull shit with no possible way to accomplish it.

        He’s smart enough to be in a room with folks smarter than him, but everyone else is carrying the load while he takes credit.

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          He’s smart enough to be in a room with folks smarter than him, but everyone else is carrying the load while he takes credit.

          Curious if you think the same of Steve Jobs, Henry Ford, and many others who clearly have stand out products etc but where not engineering them themselves but maybe solving the supply chain issues, pushing the design etc? Do we get iPhones or Model T without them building the companies, teams and pushing their products to specific goals?

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          the moment anyone who was actually good at math, astronomy, engineering or rocket science examined that number and timeline it was clearly bull shit with no possible way to accomplish it.

          It is absolutely true that ANY time estimate that comes out of his mouth is a hopeless stretch, we all know what everyone through about his plan for reusable rockets a few years back and now SpaceX delivers more cargo to orbit than all other providers on earth, and almost all of them combined even.

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    Maybe this says more about women than Elon Musk? Given a choice many women might not want to work for him…

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    What? That bastion of diversity and inclusion has a company that lacks diversity?

    I would have thought it was all white men except for his love of people who desperately need to keep their work visas.

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      I would have thought it was all white men

      Musk is going to hire people he feels “comfortable” around.

      Musk was born and raised a rich male in apartheid South Africa, and he hasn’t matured since leaving - 42069 amirite? tesla fart noises hahaha! tesla models S3XY!

      He has been repeatedly accused of both racist and misogynistic behavior, of course he’s going to “feel most comfortable” with white males. This is literally how glass ceilings are made.

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        Maybe he has been accused of racist and misogynistic behavior because he is racist and misogynistic. I sure as hell have seen him share antisemitic, transphobic, misogynistic, and racist content on his personal Twitter account. He offered to buy an employee a horse if she would sleep with him, for fuck’s sake.

        Glass ceilings are not made because a person is actually a victim of a smear campaign, they’re made because a person wants to hold onto power without being held accountable for the shitty things they do.

        Don’t be an apologist for racists and sexists. You know why Musk is most comfortable around white men. It’s because he’s an insecure racist and sexist piece of shit.

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    Not defending musk, but it is really difficult to find women in AI. The few that are around are very valuable for tech companies that will pay higher salaries to have “token women”, better if they are from some minority group, to show better diversity statistics. Therefore retention is also difficult. Finding good people in AI is already difficult and expansive, finding women is a real challenge.

    I strongly believe that diversity brings a lot of value, and women are important in any team. But the solution unfortunately is not in the current market, but it is at school levels. Culture must change.

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        Those stats don’t take into account the number of women that would want to work for Elon Musk.

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        Taking 89.3% men from your source at face value, and selecting 12 people at random, that gives a 12.2% chance (1 in 8) that the company of that size would be all male.
        Add in network effects, risk tolerance for startups, and the hiring practices of larger companies, and that number likely gets even larger.

        What’s the p-value for a news story? Unless this is some trend from other companies run by Musk, there doesn’t seem to be anything newsworthy here.

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        Nice stats, but it isn’t broken down on industry. From experience (I worked in different fields) in some industries such as pharma, people analytics or marketing, women are even likely the majority (they were majority when I worked in pharma, for instance). In more “pure” tech and fintech companies, I do not believe those stats represent the “natural distribution”. I know it’s anecdotal, but trust me, it’s not easy to find woman in AI in some industries. They are highly valued, well paid and have quick career progression because of this, to attract and retain them.

        That said, elon is probably “machist” type of guy, I am not defending him. Just trying to give a bit of context

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          “my anecdotal industry experience trumps your stats” you don’t sound like you have a very unbiased opinion brah

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        I was thinking “thing” or “abomination,” myself. Perhaps “manchild” if I were being generous.

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          Well, we know Zuckerberg is an android but Musk is not close enough to human to be one. I wanna say he’s one of those goblin things that faeries leave in place of a child they stole.

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    What’s really funny is, all of those profiles only have links to their Twitter accounts, but you can’t see them unless you make a Twitter account yourself.