please, fandom is one of the worst sites on the internet
When the old school RuneScape wiki moved to a self hosted solution it was night and day the quality difference. I’d argue that OSRS (and probably regular RS) have some of the best wikis in gaming.
It used to be so decent, but man, it turned to crap. I hardly recognize what it once was.
The four horsemen of the video game Google search apocalypse are Fandom, IGN, Polygon, and GameRant
I’m pleased to hear that they’re moving. Fandom’s had a monopoly on the community-created wiki space for far too long, and it’s had a dire effect on the usability of so many wikis. It’s like they’re trying to make their site everything but a easily usable resource for community wikis.
On a related note, I highly recommend the “Indie Wiki Buddy” extension for Chrome and Firefox. When non-Fandom/Fextralife wikis are available, it’ll direct you to those instead; and when they’re not, it’ll allow you to view the Fandom wiki through a much more usable mirror.
Fandom is so utterly annoying with those unrelated videos. Really annoying website.
Fandom wikis are such bloated trash that I will always look elsewhere for info.
Going to Fandom is like visiting a annoying dying person because they hold the hidden information.
Stardew Valley did the right thing by self hosting a wiki, makes it both official and independent
Several have, including the old school RuneScape wiki!
Now there’s two, and one is far more content full
Looks like the add-supported-free-stuff business model really is collapsing.
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If ad companies would be paid according to customer conversion rate instead of how many ads they spam everywhere, it would collapse within a financial quarter.
Thinking that people support a brand or product that constantly annoys them is next-level stupid, but it’s their main strategy. Google’s conversion rate is less than 4% and instead of realizing that spamming trillions of ads on every site is causing that abysmal rate, they double down and get off to bigger “reach”.
Also, Google lied to customers of their TrueView ads and just presented people muted autoplay ads instead. Here’s an analysis about that.
https://adalytics.io/blog/invalid-google-video-partner-trueview-ads
tl;dr the only one benefitting from ads is Google.
As aptly explained by writer Cory Doctorow:
Here is how platforms die: First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
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Unfortunately, for most technology startups there are exactly two ways to pay salaries to the developers: getting investors (which lead to the exact cycle that I explained earlier) or paywalling the site up the wazoo (which leads to the community being necessarily smaller than it could have been otherwise).
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And even with no capitalism involved in the equation, how do we convince the government to get taxpayers to foot the bill for something as mundane as an image hosting service? Especially in an environment where even art and education are being severely restricted in cash flow due to them being “non-essential services”?
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Fandom has been a pretty terrible experience for awhile now. I hope they find a better home.
Just whatever you do, do not use Google docs to share information that belongs to a wiki. That’s is by far the most annoying option and 100 times worse than just having to deal with a fandom wiki.
Fandom is a huge headache to even navigate, I couldn’t imagine what it’s like to maintain it
Exactly this.
When a company can’t expand its market share anymore they will make the product cheaper, worse and more expensive.
For tech this means filling the product with bloat, upping the prices for consumers, and lowering their payouts to creators (subcontractors).
What’s wrong with Spotify?
Good, Fandom’s wiki’s are garbage.
A lot of people are moving to wiki.gg l. It has so many more features
Dead Cells wiki is great there. Far better than fandom
Deep rock galactic wiki looks much better on wiki.gg also
Fandom is barely usable at this point. I feel like they’re just relying on no one wanting to put in the effort of coordinating a migration elsewhere.
I’m an editor for a community wiki that moved off fandom a few years ago to Mireheze. When the recent discussion about Miraheze shutting down happened I briefly inquired about where we would migrate to, expressing my hope to not return to fandom, and was quite thouroghly assured that fandom is not somewhere that would even be considered returning to. I don’t think I’ve had a single positive experience on a fandom wiki ever, or at least not in over 8 years, with issues ranging from intrusive ads, to the comment section pop in making scrolling inconsistent, to even something as simple as it universally looking fucking ugly, I can’t wait for people to leave and am actively cheering on its slow death as a website.
