• Red Army Dog Cooper@lemmy.ml
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    the diffrence being that Missles are valid military tactics esepcialy when sent to military targets, and as far as I am aware that is what Hezbula is doing, as for palistine, as an opressed group fighting for freedom the UN has a seperate set of rules of war they are permitted to engage in, does that make it asymetical, yes but that is how the internaltional law is written (and you dont need to agree with me editorializing of palistine for the seperate rules of war that they use kick in)

    Isreal sent in bombs with no way of discriminating civilian and military targets, and knew said individuals would bring it into civlilan centers, the fact they did that in a way where it entered civilian centers, with no military objective is also a war crime.

    we also can be pretty sure that this shipment was not all going to Hezbula and it can be reasonably assumed others in lebenon where effected, though I will admit this part is me thinking outloud with no evidence to back it up yet

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      What are you saying? Lol i can’t argue with someone who s trying to gaslight me into thinking this never happened https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/27/middleeast/lebanon-israel-golan-strikes-intl-latam/ Lebanon literally fires indiscriminately, because they don’t have anything else to shoot with.

      Israel surgically targeted members of Hezbollah, in this case (i am not arguing about gaza or anything else). This a masterclass of warfare. Unlike their usual strike in the middle of refugee camps lol

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        If Hezbollah did exactly this to Israel, you wouldn’t be saying “surgically targeted” or “a masterclass in warfare”

        This is terrorism. Lebanese civilians are people like anyone else, including you

        Thousands of pagers simultaneously exploded across Lebanon and parts of Syria on September 17, 2024, resulting in at least 12 deaths, including at least two children and two health workers, and at least 2,800 injuries, according to Lebanon’s Ministry of Health.

        Photographs and videos filmed by victims and witnesses to the incident and reviewed by Human Rights Watch showed pagers exploding in various locales, such as grocery stores. Other videos that appear to be linked to the incident show adults and children in emergency rooms with severe penetrating traumatic injuries to their heads, torsos. and limbs, and other injuries consistent with the detonation of high explosives.

        Hezbollah, in a statement, said that the pagers belonged “to employees of various Hezbollah units and institutions” and blamed the Israeli government. US and former Israeli officials speaking to the media said that Israel was responsible for the attack. The Israeli military has not commented.

        “Customary international humanitarian law prohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction. A prompt and impartial investigation into the attacks should be urgently conducted.”

        • Lama Fakih, Middle East and North Africa Director at Human Rights Watch
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          I would say exactly what i said here : masterclass in enemy elimination: don’t worry, i am pretty consistent in my logic, I am not complaining when they target Israeli soldiers on daily basis, that’s fair game

          Those are not civilians, that’s where you banging this argument against my head, but that won’t make it : those are people who openly says they have a goal to kill Israeli, and they are trying to do so, daily. Those are soldiers, however they wish to call themselves

          Your cited arguments might have a legal ground, but they have no moral basis. Those are soldiers. Fair game.

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        If you read the report from CNN Hezbulah takes credit for attacks in the area, however does not take credit for the one the article is talking about.

        I do not see the reasoning for a military group to take credit for attacks in an area but not this one if it was one they launced. I will be honest my analisis beyond here would be tanted by my own personal bias however.

        We are also talking about civilians living in occupied territory that even the UN has said is illegal and ought to be returned, agian I would like to refer you to the international law that allowes for asymetiric warfare in causes of national liberation.