• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    30 days ago

    Judaism tries to disincentive people to convert while Islam and Christianity both try/have tried very hard to convert people, often at the tip of the sword.

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      29 days ago

      Is the disincentive effort a filter? To weed out those who are not fully committed?

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            29 days ago

            Until you realise that they do the same shitty conversion tactics as Christians, just to those who are ethnically but not religiously Jewish.

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              29 days ago

              I was considering it only from the… I suppose… Intellectual viewpoint perhaps?

              Here are all the reasons you shouldn’t want to join our club.

              And also, from a very naïve viewpoint too. The subtleties of an ethnic religion are an entirely foreign idea to me.

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      30 days ago

      Okay just to make something clear: While Muslim rule spread by force, getting told “comvert or die” was generally a very rare occurrence. Better living conditions for non-Muslims were a thing depending on the time and place, but even then the Islamization of the modern Muslim world outside Arabia was a very gradual process that took, for example, four hundred years in Egypt of one-sided cultural osmosis. Admittedly there was some foul play involved at some points, but almost nobody was converted at the tip of a sword.

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        29 days ago

        Convert, pay up an extortionate tax and/or become a slave, or die, is forced conversion.

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          29 days ago

          pay up an extortionate tax

          Jizya is less than the Zakat, the equivalent tax for Muslims.