In Germany, more than 60% of Black people and Muslims have experienced discrimination, according to a new study by the National Discrimination and Racism Monitor. The consequences can be severe.
Can you tell me some areas in the world that are more multi-cultural and less racist than western Europe?
For example, Singaporeans are wilding about Indians coming to their country for economic reasons. Working day and night, outcompeting locals. Bringing in more Indians.
I’ve been outside of Europe, you know what I saw? A lot of mono cultures such as Europe in the 1900s.
You are right, it’s true everywhere. It’s human nature to be wary of people you don’t understand. But, for some things, you’d expect countries that are a lot further ahead in progressivism to be “nicer”, especially since, you know, they industrialised and became richer on the backs of poorer countries.
Though I suppose that’s very difficult to quantitatively measure exactly - how progressive someone is (on the scale of a country). How more accepting they are than other countries.
But there’s also room for letting people air out their issues without being told that “everyone is like this, stop whining”. That’s literally what the Russian goverment does, they implicitly tell their populace that democracy doesn’t work and that this is the best deal they’ll ever get.
Ah it can always be better. Fun fact, 80% of Congolese cobalt is owned by Chinese companies.
Strong economies trade with weak economies. Ends up in a win win situation. China only became a strong economy through the trade with priorly developed economies.
So I’m going to ignore that argument a bit. Worst thing we could do for “global south” would be to stop trading with them. It’d be called sanctioning them.
Now, eh, we got our issues to tackle in Europe. But as someone who was born in 1995, I have seen how my society has transformed. Brussels in the 90s compared to today is day and night in terms of diversity.
Now you can always say like “there’s racism!!! This is a shit hole to live in!!!”
But then… come on, it’s not that bad. I know 20% of Europe is voting anti immigration political parties. But these are usually the less educated folks.
Get educated, you won’t even be in contact with them.
My wife’s pregnant. Our kid will be indonesian-Belgian in ethnicity (or Chinese/Japanese whatever, she keeps being called Chinese in her own country lol)
So our kid will grow up in bit of a racist environment. No matter where we live.
Well, we have the privilege to live anywhere in the world that we want. My wife prefers Belgium.
I’ll trust her judgement.
We can always improve, but we live in a pretty good place.
Apparently no one can complain about anything because it’s bad everywhere. Guess I should just get use to being called the N-word in Germany because Singaporeans don’t like Indians
I’m saying that diversity takes time. I’ve seen Belgium go through different stages.
My wife’s indonesian. You know what she’d be if she married an African guy? Disowned.
The Congolese in Belgium seem pretty wealthy, more wealthy than the Arabs in the same cities.
Perhaps linked to the source of immigration (economic immigrants with work visas) or their culture. Am talking bout Aalst specifically.
I don’t have a clue about it at all, just trying to connect dots.
You can keep talking bout racism, will be beneficial for my kid in the future.
But don’t have tunnel vision either. There’s a lot of mono cultures out there in the world where there would be a lot of resistance to immigration. These countries would have to start from scratch when it comes to diversity. It’s not like they’d be instant paradises.
Like china had their scandal with how they treated their minority in an area.
And Africa… literal genocides as far as I’m aware.
It cracks me up how white people in usa and europe both think that europe is a post-racial utopia instead of an extremely racist colonial empire.
Can you tell me some areas in the world that are more multi-cultural and less racist than western Europe?
For example, Singaporeans are wilding about Indians coming to their country for economic reasons. Working day and night, outcompeting locals. Bringing in more Indians.
I’ve been outside of Europe, you know what I saw? A lot of mono cultures such as Europe in the 1900s.
You are right, it’s true everywhere. It’s human nature to be wary of people you don’t understand. But, for some things, you’d expect countries that are a lot further ahead in progressivism to be “nicer”, especially since, you know, they industrialised and became richer on the backs of poorer countries.
Though I suppose that’s very difficult to quantitatively measure exactly - how progressive someone is (on the scale of a country). How more accepting they are than other countries.
But there’s also room for letting people air out their issues without being told that “everyone is like this, stop whining”. That’s literally what the Russian goverment does, they implicitly tell their populace that democracy doesn’t work and that this is the best deal they’ll ever get.
Ah it can always be better. Fun fact, 80% of Congolese cobalt is owned by Chinese companies.
Strong economies trade with weak economies. Ends up in a win win situation. China only became a strong economy through the trade with priorly developed economies.
So I’m going to ignore that argument a bit. Worst thing we could do for “global south” would be to stop trading with them. It’d be called sanctioning them.
Now, eh, we got our issues to tackle in Europe. But as someone who was born in 1995, I have seen how my society has transformed. Brussels in the 90s compared to today is day and night in terms of diversity.
Now you can always say like “there’s racism!!! This is a shit hole to live in!!!”
But then… come on, it’s not that bad. I know 20% of Europe is voting anti immigration political parties. But these are usually the less educated folks.
Get educated, you won’t even be in contact with them.
My wife’s pregnant. Our kid will be indonesian-Belgian in ethnicity (or Chinese/Japanese whatever, she keeps being called Chinese in her own country lol)
So our kid will grow up in bit of a racist environment. No matter where we live.
Well, we have the privilege to live anywhere in the world that we want. My wife prefers Belgium.
I’ll trust her judgement.
We can always improve, but we live in a pretty good place.
Article talking about racism in Germany.
You : But ppl are racist everywhere!!!
Apparently no one can complain about anything because it’s bad everywhere. Guess I should just get use to being called the N-word in Germany because Singaporeans don’t like Indians
I’m saying that diversity takes time. I’ve seen Belgium go through different stages.
My wife’s indonesian. You know what she’d be if she married an African guy? Disowned.
The Congolese in Belgium seem pretty wealthy, more wealthy than the Arabs in the same cities.
Perhaps linked to the source of immigration (economic immigrants with work visas) or their culture. Am talking bout Aalst specifically.
I don’t have a clue about it at all, just trying to connect dots.
You can keep talking bout racism, will be beneficial for my kid in the future.
But don’t have tunnel vision either. There’s a lot of mono cultures out there in the world where there would be a lot of resistance to immigration. These countries would have to start from scratch when it comes to diversity. It’s not like they’d be instant paradises.
Like china had their scandal with how they treated their minority in an area.
And Africa… literal genocides as far as I’m aware.
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Surely you have a lot of data to back this claim up
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/
That’s a 12 year old paywalled map. I don’t see any evidence for their claim and I recommend reading this carefully: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Germany