• goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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    The state can also control everything. In which case, China, Vietnam and Cuba.

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          No it cannot, that’s not communism. China is as communist as North Korea is democratic. Just because a country calls itself something does not make it that thing.

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            Countries can have multiple different systems in place. China for example, is an authoritarian communist state.

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              Communism by definition cannot be authoritarian. So no, China is not an authoritarian communist state, it’s just a an authoritarian state.

              The only way for China to be communist is to give all people direct communal ownership of goods and services.

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                Communism can be authoritarian, though, as it has been in history.

                What’s your basis for this definition?

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                  No it cannot because communism by definition must be a classless society. If there is a group above others that controls the state, it is no longer classless, and therefore not communist.

                  And you know, the name derives from communal, so no communal ownership = no communism.