• presoak@lazysoci.alOP
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    6 days ago

    Ok. Fair argument. But concentration is key to scientists, engineers etc. And they, as a population, do dictate the form of our culture to a great degree. And this power does not require great success.

    How about my first point, the thing about the insanity, got anything to say about that?

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      I said I don’t think there’s any evidence of concentration leading to insanity in my first response. I also asked for evidence. For any great thinker you can point to who you think went insane, you could easily find another who didn’t. Anecdotal evidence doesn’t really cut it, so got any studies that show that intense study of a topic leads to insanity?

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        I have only my own study of the thing. And insanity is a very gooshy term after all. But if you examined concentration yourself you might come to a similar conclusion.

        Consider the parts of my explanation. The fact that when you concentrate on one thing you ignore another. And then the habit and so on. Do any of these parts fit your own experience? Do any of them seem absurd?

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          It doesn’t fit my experience. I’m an engineer, I concentrated regularly in my studies and I concentrate regularly through my work, I don’t find its training me to ignore other aspects of the world or my life. I know lots of highly successful people, they tend to be more well rounded than not.

          I wonder if maybe you are confusing concentration with hyperfixation?

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            It’s hard to account for what you’re blind to. Because you’re blind to it. You could be blind to a hundred things and never know it

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                We both know that when you concentrate on one thing you ignore another.

                We both know that there is this thing called a habit.

                Even without making an examination of the phenomenon we can put these obvious pieces together and reach the obvious implication.

                That’s 2 paths to my conclusion. To casually disregard both is silly.

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                  So hypothesis not proof, great. Concentration require focus on a task not ignorance of others, so can you form a habit of opposite action to what you are completing? My hypothesis is that you can’t and that the habit formed would be to have good concentration and ability to focus your attention. Like the opposite of ADHD. If you have anti-ADHD are you then insane?

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                    Do you not ignore everything else when you concentrate on a thing?

                    Do you not collect habits like a bumper collects stickers?

                    That’s my “proof”.