I’m seeing a bunch of posts insinuating that this most recent assassination attempt was fake. Why do people think this? I’m out of the loop.

  • a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.caOP
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    2 days ago

    It’s reading less like you’re curious and more like you’re looking for an opportunity to “soap-box”.

    Why do you think this?

    You keep asking for sources

    Why is this a bad thing? I’m asking for sources so I can look into it myself and gather more information. This is exactly the sort of behaviour you would expect from someone who is curious, so I don’t understand why you’re doubting my curiosity. And wouldn’t a lot of people providing a lot of sources make your case for a conspiracy stronger? I really don’t understand why you’re taking issue with this.

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      8 hours ago

      Again, your actions show a disingenuous attitude by selectively quoting a partial sentence,

      “You keep asking for sources… when A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world provided links yet you’re still feigning ignorance of context asking for more sources.” (the actual full sentence)

      Throw in some MAGA rhetoric comment painting anyone involved not in your favor as republican, asking if I believe it’s a “proven fact” the assassination was faked as some kinda gotcha when I’ve already stated “I’m neither side”.

      Here’s the timeline as I saw it: 8:48am, asking for “shot’s fired” source. after, “is it possible that it’s AI?”. 9:48am, you get randomidiots source links. 1:13pm, “I can’t seem to find the source for this.” (was already given by randomidiot) 1:21pm, your longest rant about “objective truth”.

      Either you’re not checking sources and demanding for more, completely dense and misreading/illiterate, or some type of combination with the blatant twisting and lack of an actual response besides “Thanks” when someone has proven a fact or event took place with sources.

      You’ve also completely moved the goalpost from your original question that is your title, “Why are people speculating that the most recent Trump assassination attempt was fake?” Now, you need “strong evidence” for something people were just originally pondering on for any discussion to be valid. All while selecting the two weakest links as examples, quietly dismissing all the other points that were made. In case you’re still wondering why people are “speculating”, here’s some vids to digest since it seems you’re not interested in reading articles linked to you.

      Breaking Points - Conspiracy Theories ERUPT After WHCD Shooting

      The Majority Report - Why Was Trump’s Security So Bad For WHCD?

      The Humanist Report - The Unintentionally Hilarious Aftermath of the WHCD Shooting

      Secular Talk - FALSE FLAG??: WHCD Shooting Makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!

      Daily Show - Trump Spins Dinner Shooting for Ballroom Agenda

      MeidasTouch - Trump Raises RED FLAGS on Shooting after GHOST WRITING MOTION?!!

      Congrats though, you seem to be on the same playbook with the White House administration.

      it’s very important to us that we get the truth and the facts about this case and any case out there as quickly as possible to dispel some of that crazy nonsense that you do see uh running rampant online. Um, and I think the Department of Justice and the FBI thus far have done a good job of disseminating the truth and the facts about this uh alleged attempted assassin. - Karoline Leavitt

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        Jesus Christ man this is schizo shit. Calm down. This post has 265 comments. I was inundated with stuff in my inbox. I wasn’t keep track of every link anyone ever sent me, and I couldn’t read every response immediately either

    • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I’m on your side man, but this is one of the tactics trolls/propaganda bots use. It’s called sealioning if I remember right. The idea is to shut down discussion by shifting the burden to the other side asking for “sources” while contributing nothing to the discussion. Real easy to ask for sources, harder to provide and explain them.

      It sucks that this is where we are.

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        The idea is to shut down discussion

        I’m the one who made this post. As of right now it has 159 upvotes and 166 comments. Does that sound like shutting down discussion to you?

        by shifting the burden to the other side asking for “sources”

        Shouldn’t the burden be on the people who are proposing a conspiracy? Regardless, it doesn’t even make sense to talk about a “burden” here (as if asking for a link is that much of a burden). Not everyone is trying to prove a point when asking for a source. Sometimes people just want to look into things further.

        I’m on your side man

        Thanks. I know you’re not accusing me of anything but I still felt the need to respond

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          Agree with you here. It’s wild that asking for sources is seen as shutting a discussion down. It’s literally opening the discussion wider - unless the other side wants to take it as some kind of attack.

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            Was it a bad idea for there to be mass defederation of the MAGA instance? Not asking because I support that viewpoint (like most Canadians I am very anti-MAGA) but I wonder if it would have reduced the echo-chamber effects you’re describing