USA is a rogue nation.

Pure projection of Orban raping Hungary.

That actually made me laugh out loud. 👍 🤣

Oh I didn’t detect any snarkiness, just you being to the point, which is a thing I appreciate.
But I’m often considered impolite. I think it’s a culture thing.

But I must admit I am annoyed by you contradicting me, but it’s even worse that you were right.
I find that generally offensive.
So I’ll go sulk in corner for a few minutes. 😜 😋 🤣

The (claimed) source:
https://github.com/deepseek-ai

Investigating further I can see it is NOT open source. All the articles saying that are lying, probably unknowingly just as I believed the claim, they probably did too, and I’m NOT being sarcastic!
I have no idea why publishing these “weights” is considered open source, it has nothing to do with Open Source as defined by OSI, which I believe has a historical right to the term.

I apologize.

your changing the definition of open source software.

https://techwireasia.com/2025/07/china-open-source-ai-models-global-rankings/

The tide has turned. With the December 2024 launch of DeepSeek’s free-for-all V3 large language model (LLM) and the January 2025 release of DeepSeek’s R1 (the AI reasoning model that rivals the capabilities of OpenAI’s O1), the open-source movement started by Chinese firms has sent shockwaves through Silicon Valley and Wall Street.

And:

DeepSeek, adopting an open-source approach was an effective strategy for catching up, as it allowed them to use contributions from a broader community of developers.”

I’ve read similar descriptions in other articles, seems your claim is false.

OpenAI and such are working overtime to lock customers in.

Of course they are, I just thought they hadn’t figured out how yet. 🤥

memberstates cede power to a supranational entity

Which as it is we only do marginally and only on things we have specifically agreed to. This was one of the key arguments that was the reason Denmark couldn’t join the Maastricht-treaty that ended ECC and formed EU in 1991, and instead had the Edinburgh-agreement in 1992.
The exceptions Denmark achieved are basically irrelevant to the functioning of Denmark in EU. For instance we have our own currency, but the Danish Crown is tied to the Euro anyway. So the difference to having the Euro is academic.

EU regulation is written into law by each separate country, and upheld for the country by the country. EU is NOT a federation because it doesn’t have neither a central government or a central set of laws. There is no central force controlled by EU of any kind, that will enter your country to do anything. Either Police, or veterinary, or military intelligence or anything.

Anyway to avoid any prejudice I personally use the term “The European Project”.

I hear politicians use that term too, and I 100% condone that description, because it definitely is a project, and a very significant one.

Whatever it is, there is nothing like it anywhere in the world.

Exactly, and we shouldn’t devolve it to some ancient structure that doesn’t work.

Goddammit all this human suffering, and for what?
Fuck Russia, fuck Putin.

I’m also having an allergic reaction to this title.

OK at least we agree on that. 😋

European Facebook AI and Starlink would be better because it observes European regulation.

Oracle doesn’t need a bailout, they are loaded, and can afford this loss. But of course an investment not being as profitable as they promised means the stock goes down. It’s not like the company is anywhere near being in trouble.

The dataset is massive and impractical to share, and a dataset may include bias and conditions for use, and the dataset is a completely separate thing from the code. You would always want to use a dataset that fit your needs. From known sources. It’s easy to collect data. Programming a good AI algorithm not so much.
Saying a model isn’t open source because collected data isn’t included is like saying a music player isn’t open source, because it doesn’t include any music.

EDIT!!!

TheGrandNagus is however right about the source code missing, investigating further, the actual source code is not available. and the point about OSI (Open Source Initiative) is valid, because OSI originally coined the term and defined the meaning of Open Source, so their description is per definition the only correct one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source

Open source as a term emerged in the late 1990s by a group of people in the free software movement who were critical of the political agenda and moral philosophy implied in the term “free software” and sought to reframe the discourse to reflect a more commercially minded position.[14] In addition, the ambiguity of the term “free software” was seen as discouraging business adoption.[15][16] However, the ambiguity of the word “free” exists primarily in English as it can refer to cost. The group included Christine Peterson, Todd Anderson, Larry Augustin, Jon Hall, Sam Ockman, Michael Tiemann and Eric S. Raymond. Peterson suggested “open source” at a meeting[17] held at Palo Alto, California, in reaction to Netscape’s announcement in January 1998 of a source code release for Navigator.[18] Linus Torvalds gave his support the following day

Your ignorance is not a valid point.

https://techwireasia.com/2025/07/china-open-source-ai-models-global-rankings/

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman declared a “code red” last week as the upstart faces greater rivalry from Google, threatening its ability to monetize its AI products and meet its ambitious revenue targets.

Interesting that even Sam Altman is worried now!
AFAIK there are also problems that Chinese companies have their own tool chain, and are releasing high level truly open source solutions for AI.

Seems to me a problem for the sky high profits could be that it is hard to make AI lock in, like is popular with much software and cloud services. But with AI you can use whatever tool is best value, and switch to the competition whenever you want.

It’s nice that it will probably be impossible for 1 company to monopolize AI, like Microsoft did with operating systems for decades.

Hopefully things will work with Wayland at that point.

Problem is always that people be people,

Which is why centralizing power is generally a bad idea, making a federation a bad idea.

A federation is generally supposed to protect state rights, problem is the power structure with a central government undermines that.
So I’m not sure it is possible to do except by NOT having a central government.
I also don’t see the need for a central government or even any advantage of it. And it most definitely isn’t necessary to achieve the political goals of more independence from USA. Since that is already working very well for EU with the current structure.

I used XFCE many years because there were bugs and limitations in KDE I couldn’t live with.
Now I’ve used KDE for about 2 years without issues, and they pull this stupid stunt!
I still have XFCE installed, and when I switched to that my games worked fine again. Then when I wanted to switch back to KDE/X11 I couldn’t. It was friggin removed as an option after the latest upgrade, despite I specifically used KDE/X11 instead of Wayland because of a KDE/Wayland limitation that you can’t disable compositing.
I do use compositing, but I like to have the option to disable it if I need to. And it was when I noticed I couldn’t disable compositing, I switched to XFCE to see if that worked.
So long story short, I had to install a kde-x11-session package to be able to switch to it? WTF??
I must admit this incident has made me think of switching to another distro that respect user settings more.

PS:
My short trip to XFCE was quite nice, they have refined the design some since last I used it. But damned I’ll have to port all my hotkeys again, I used top have them in xbindkeys, but I moved them to native KDE to be compatible with both X11 and Wayland. 🙄

Because USA is a federation with states that are about as big as European countries.
And state rights are systematically trumped by the federal government, and there is no reason to think the same won’t happen in EU over time, if we make a similar power structure with a central government.
Germany is also a federation, that’s their choice. Germany is based on being a country of one people originally. USA is not, and EU is also not a country of one people.
EU needs to respect the differences of the European countries to work, as a federation a federal government tend to push that aside if it becomes inconvenient.
A federation lacks balance of power between the states. Which is extremely obvious in USA.