I know exactly what I’m talking about. I’m more skeptical than all these zero sum pro Russians combined.

If you read what I wrote instead of babbling what you wanted to react to…you’d not ice I’m not pro Ukraine…I’m just aware that Russia is a dictatorship that’s also full of Nazis.

You don’t need to flood the zone…everybody is aware there’s Neo-Nazis in Ukraine, like there’s Neo-Nazis in Russia, and everywhere else.

It’s absolutely Russian propaganda to present them as the entirely of Ukraine, and ignore that Russia is also  full of Nazis. Russia is also a repressive fascistic dictatorship.

Don’t know what cooked your brain that you need to hyper focus on Ukraine’s problems and ignore Russia’s:

https://www.sova-center.ru/en/xenophobia/reports-analyses/2025/02/d47102/ Independent Russian monitoring group SOVA documents trends in ideologically motivated violence, victim counts, and state responses, highlighting a resurgence of street attacks and online glorification of violence.

https://jacobin.com/2024/12/neo-nazis-russia-ukraine-violence/ Long-form analysis linking wartime propaganda and online clout culture to renewed visibility of violent neo‑Nazi groups and their recruitment tactics.

https://russianlife.com/the-russia-file/neo-nazis-return-to-russian-streets/ Magazine piece synthesizing reporting on street violence, Telegram channels, and SOVA statistics showing rising incidents in 2024.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA3450-1.html Policy research on how Kremlin narratives about “denazification” are used strategically; useful for understanding state propaganda and external messaging.

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/2/4/503446.pdf Official OSCE materials and delegations’ statements addressing neo‑Nazi glorification and related regional concerns.

https://carnegie-mec.org/russia-eurasia/research Scholarly analyses on Russian nationalism, state‑far‑right interactions, and implications.

https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2024/11/how-the-traumas-of-2004-blinded-putin?lang=en Contextual piece linking historical trauma narratives to contemporary securitized rhetoric that can empower extremist frames.

https://www.brookings.edu/regions/europe-eurasia/russia/ Policy briefs and expert commentary on Russian domestic politics, including far‑right trends and security implications.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/12/06/neo-nazi-street-attacks-are-making-a-comeback-in-russia-experts-link-it-to-2000s-nostalgia-internet-clout-culture-and-the-war Investigative reporting on viral attack videos, Telegram ecosystems, and cultural drivers behind renewed violence.

https://www.isdglobal.org/isd-in-the-news/isds-steven-rai-on-the-resurgence-of-the-neo-nazi-accelerationist-group-the-base/ Expert commentary on transnational neo‑Nazi networks, recruitment, and links to conflict zones.

https://www.dagens.com/war/neo-nazi-terror-group-with-ties-to-russia-recruits-for-attacks-in-ukraine News coverage of recruitment and alleged operational ties between extremist cells and Russian interests.

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jarees2001/2002/31/2002_31_57////_article Academic study tracing ideological roots, party actors, and social drivers of neo‑Nazi movements in Russia.

https://academic.oup.com/book/45836/chapter/400752581 Scholarly chapter on neo‑Nazi networks in Russian prisons and their social dynamics.

https://www.academia.edu/41133663/From_Red_to_Black_The_rise_of_Neo_Nazism_in_Russia_in_the_90 Historical overview useful for tracing evolution from 1990s skinhead subculture to modern groups.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/30/putin-says-ukraine-goals-will-be-achieved-as-he-repeats-neo-nazi-claims Reporting on official rhetoric that invokes “neo‑Nazi” narratives as justification for policy and war.

No idea what radicalized you…for some people it’s because they’re tankies…for others it’s because they’re insane anti Americans. At the end of the day you’ve got tunnel vision and blinders.

It’s been going on since ~1900. Before that they were friends, often brothers in arms.

This is just Russian propaganda.

Here in reality, no, Ukraine isn’t run by neo Nazis. Are some people in the army Nazis? Yes, of course…people who like to kill other people are generally terrible people.

It’s amazing that, for whatever reason, people give such a pass to Russia. Russia is a fascist dictatorship that absolutely ethnically cleanses groups all over the country and it’s satellites.

Insults are the perfect argument. You win.

Spare me.

You don’t seem interested in the conversation…just anger.

Such nuance.

Something is going to happen to add tension, mark my words… it’s just been world building so far.

Love it so far. We’ll see if it pays off. If I were to guess I’d say it will.

This isn’t some zero sum thought exponent where you “win” if you can find me some edge cases. What else do you think was involved with these extinctions? Do you think maybe it was a bunch of people showing up with a bunch of bullshit and destroying everything, perhaps? Yeah…we’ve destroyed things 10000 different ways…I’m sure cats were high in that list once or twice.

You’re kind of skipping the elephant in the room if you make cats the bad guy instead of human nature. All you’re doing is treating a symptom and you’ll save approximate 0% of the environment (rounded the the closest %) of you go on an anti-cat crusade.

If you feel that way then maybe you’ll understand that cats are really low on the list of how we’re being harmful. Top of the list is stop being a materialist. Solve that problem, and the 1000th problem on the list, cats, will solve itself.

The message a lot of the anti-cat people propagate is: have indoor cats. Terrible idea. All the nonsense you buy for your indoor cats is also going to destroy the environment…but it won’t be some cute bird at the feeder so you don’t care. The literary “you”.

You’re projecting and seem to be more concerned with owning me and changing the subject to things you’re technically correct about.

I’m all for a conversation about eliminating cats…but the way to do that isn’t to waste your time on the cats themselves, but rather the overarching impulses. If you have an indoor cat, the problems you’re going to cause to the environment just buying things for your stupid cat is going to be more harmful than having an outdoor cat. Git it?

Hm? I’m perfectly correct. Figuratively :)

I don’t give a shit about cats…insofar as they’re only useful if they can survive long enough to kill mice for me.

My interest in this topic is fleeting…I think it’s amusing that some city people believe that cats are on any list that’s important. Be an anti materialist…you’ll save a lot more “wildlife”.

It sounds a lot like you agree the conflict isn’t about good vs evil.

Yeah, it doesn’t. Despite you using the term “wildlife”, there’s nothing wild about the habitat of cats. If cats lived in a place with natural predators and without humans protecting them, there’d be barely any cats.

I get it…you’re an anti-cat crusader. You got radicalized about a minor problem amidst all the major problem of human behaviour destroying habitat and wiping out species. I empathize…I hate invasive species, including humans.

I propose that you do something meaningful, like opposing materialism as a lifestyle, rather that getting outraged about some boutique issue. Sure, if it comes up, don’t own a cat or encourage people to get one if you don’t have livestock.

I never treated all or any birds at bird feeders as invasive. I said that they have no predators because we killed them all. I haven’t seen any data on how many birds a cat can kill vs an owl…I suspect an owl is more effective. I haven’t seen any data that suggests that cats are threatening any bird populations.

It just sounds like something that need to be managed…and we should consider something other than the cute birds we want at bird feeders.

Humans brought rodents, and killed their predators. Are cats killing more rats and mice than a weasel could? Unlikely.

Some edge case about a cat wiping out a bird population on an island 100 years ago doesn’t interest me.

Pretty much. To me it’s such a “boutique” opinion to get outraged about how dangerous cats are…without any context or consideration for the context in which cats exist in the first place.

Like…it’s akin to a first world problem…a bunch of people saw a documentary about cats, felt that they had some measure of power to deal with cats…and haven’t considered any of the major problems created by routines that they participate in that actually mean something.

Yes, cats are terrible. But killing all the owls (another commenter brought this up) and putting up all the bird feeders that gave the cats so much easy “prey” is also worth considering.

The weird thing is the OP is about cats getting killed by coyotes…who are a much more dangerous pest species (in the contexts that they’re eating cats) than the cats.

I’m definitely overthinking this…but my angle is I’m a rural person who has livestock and rodent problems. A  much different scenario to somebody who lives in an apartment and got radicalized by some amateur birder who hates cats because they don’t want to leave the city to see birds

Your position is Russian isn’t imperial or fascist?

…or is it that because the USA or your so-called “imperial core” is more fascist and/or imperial that we should ignore Russia’s?

For the world. Giant repressive capitalist dictatorships that are full of fascists and invade other countries aren’t good for anybody…even if some of the people they’re killing are also fascists.

Oh?

I’m anti America and anti Russia. I’m not pretending I’m some expert on geopolitics…but I do know that Russia is a fascist capitalist state and they’re not the good guys, even if many of the Ukrainians and their supporters are bad.