So you know more than the icj? If there was a genocide ongoing, why didn’t they put a stop to the hostilities? Why did the president of the icj come out and explicitly clear the record that their judgment was not that there is a plausible genocide happening right now? If you study genocide as you claim, why would the icj allow one to continue if one in fact was happening? They intervene in Russia, Ukraine. They didn’t intervene in Israel.

I’m quite confident I know who I’m aligned with and who I’m against. It’s also pretty evident that I’m much more familiar with the situation on the ground than you are having spent time on both sides of the wall…

That’s absolutely untrue. The West the West has gone out of its way to redefine what a genocide is. Even saying that that’s required in a parliament host in Europe.

The challenges are coming from countries that are aligned with Russia and Iran. That’s so blatantly obvious. The fact that you didn’t include it in your statement really makes your intentions questionable here. Meanwhile, we have the former president of the icj, the lady who literally penned the decision saying that they didn’t rule. It was plausibly a genocide and that all the stupid people out there claiming it’s a genocide. Not only don’t understand the ruling but they don’t understand the topic. Seems like you’re part of that crowd.

It’s a fucking video. You can watch it for yourself. You don’t have to listen to anybody.

The level of stupidity being displayed around this issue is fucking Mind-Boggling. It really is people saying don’t believe what you see with your own eyes. Believe what the international terrorist organization is saying…FFS.

I’m here LoL, I really make an effort to take in both sides. One CLEARLY doesn’t know what the fuck they’re talking about or who they’re aligning with.

I feel like you are very likely from a western society. And what I’ve noticed since this conflict has broken openly, is there is a serious disconnect between those of us who are rooted in the middle East and those who are not.

When you live next to someone who has spent over 1,000 years trying to exterminate you and you now have a safe harbor that you can defend yourself from, then you meet fire with fire. Israel is quite clearly taking more steps than any Nation has ever taken in an urban combat situation to avoid civilian casualties. They’re not Lily white in this. Nobody fighting a war could possibly be, but to try and claim that they’re even close to being on the level of the people who tore babies out of their cribs and slaughtered them completely misrepresents the reality on the ground.

The white Western Savior along the lines of what Martin Luther King identified 50 years ago doesn’t have a fucking clue what they’re looking at or talking about when it comes to the theater of war that we are witnessing in the middle East. You can’t humanely fight against the monsters that comprise hamas. As sad as that is for humans to have to accept in order to save their own lives.

Pretty sure it started in 48 when five Arab Nations attacked the fledgling nation of Israel… They lost them, preventing them from developing their pan arabian caliphate and they simply have not gotten over it since.

The simple fact that Israel exists and Jews control their own destiny completely surrounded by islamists and those who openly call for their death is something that they’re just unwilling to accept.

Are you an engineer LoL?

Real estate people too. If you’re not a VP in real estate, you don’t really exist. I’ve met guys with a VP title who are like 23 years old and not even done their mbas. It just makes everyone look stupid.

This isn’t a court of law. This is a war, a war that was started by Hamas. Hamas who uses women and children as human Shields.

Not to mention that the propaganda claiming how many women and children have been killed has now been revised to half the original number.

No one is happy with what’s happening here. What would make me happy is for the hostages to be released and for Hamas to stop terrorizing the Palestinian people.

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-801171

Video embedded within. Plenty of other articles on this if this video doesn’t satisfy.

I work with plenty of engineers, structural electrical, mechanical who all have their own version of a cabbage.

That’s just engineer speak for figure it the fuck out yourself.

And yet yesterday we have clear video released showing armed Hamas fighters headbands and all. Getting in and out of UNRWA vehicles just outside the Rafah gate.

You’ve got the agency acknowledging that they were supplying Hamas with power underneath their headquarters, yet somehow we’re supposed to believe they weren’t aware.

Got thousands of pages of documents linking employees of the agency to Hamas.

And yet when the UN investigates itself it finds nothing wrong. Even while we’re seeing them covertly revise the mortality numbers and cutting the number of children dead in half. So what are we supposed to believe? Because they’ve certainly undermined any credibility that they could possibly have on this file with their public statements and actions.

When you don’t believe what you see with your own eyes, It’s because your bias is stronger than your ability to reason.

Edit. Hamas agreed to release bodies when they couldn’t come up with the number of hostages that they said they could. They’ve admitted they can’t turn over the number of live hostages to fulfill their end of the bargain. So how is that Israel’s fault? Hostages in exchange for truce is the deal, The only one misinformed here is you on a number of levels and it appears that you need to step outside your Echo chamber.

Well they paid the power bill for Hamas for starters. Anyone who believes they weren’t aware of what’s underneath their hq is not worth engaging in discussing with frankly.

There’s video that just came out yesterday showing Hamas fully armed and in regalia using un vehicles at the Rafa gate. There’s also 3,000 pages of emails, text messages and employee files that link thousands of unreal officials.

There’s reams of proof out there. You just need to get out of your Echo chamber.

You can also donate directly to Hamas and bypass the middleman there. Some pretty great footage came out yesterday showing Hamas fully armed wearing regalia coming into UN vehicles. Right outside the Rafa gate.

UNRWA is apparently an aid group. They’re also quite clearly terrorists. They even house terrorists in their official facilities can’t provide them with the electricity they need.

Sadly, as long as Hamas continues to embed themselves within the civilian population, this will continue to happen. It’s not acceptable but it’s a sad reality of war. The fastest way to stop this is to release the hostages.

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