pls remind me not to be so mean

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Joined 1 year ago
Cake day: June 6th, 2023


  • I’m quoting the articles you provided

    You didn’t quote any articles initially.

    have you even read them?

    You’re rude and presumptuous.

    Long story short the links you provided are proof that people with schizophrenia like cannabis, not that cannabis causes it.

    That’s your personal conclusion, not the conclusion of the paper that the CDC cites.

    Cannabis use preceded psychosis in these studies:

    • Arseneault L, Cannon M, Poulton R, Murray R, Caspi A, Moffitt TE. Cannabis use in adolescence and risk for adult psychosis: longitudinal prospective study. BMJ. 2002;325(7374):1212-1213.
    • Zammit S, Allebeck P, Andreasson S, Lundberg I, Lewis G. Self reported cannabis use as a risk factor for schizophrenia in Swedish conscripts of 1969: historical cohort study. BMJ. 2002;325(7374):1199.
    • Weiser M, Knobler HY, Noy S, Kaplan Z. Clinical characteristics of adolescents later hospitalized for schizophrenia. Am J Med Genet. 2002;114(8):949-955.

    Also: “Controlling for familial risk in one large epidemiological study considerably attenuated but did not completely eliminate the association of cannabis use with schizophrenia, with odds ratios of 3.3 and 1.6 with 3-year and 7-year temporal delays, respectively.” (Volkow ND, Swanson JM, Evins AE, et al. 2016)

    The study in question:

    • Giordano GN, Ohlsson H, Sundquist K, Sundquist J, Kendler KS. The association between cannabis abuse and subsequent schizophrenia: a Swedish national co-relative control study. Psychol Med. 2015;45(2):407-414.

    You can’t cherry-pick the sections of the article that benefit your personal opinions and simply ignore the rest. Its clear that you did not read these articles with objectivity in mind, and for that reason I will no longer respond to you. Best of luck, hopefully you can overcome your rudeness and lack of objectivity some day.


    • Volkow ND, Swanson JM, Evins AE, et al. Effects of cannabis use on human behavior, including cognition, motivation, and psychosis: a review. JAMA Psychiatry. 2016;73(3):292-297.

  • Only when smoked marijuana can be consumed in other ways

    That’s good to know. At least the vascular diseases can be avoided when smoking pot. That does nothing for the carcinogens though.

    So do cars, do you think we should ban cars? In fact almost all smokes contain carcinogenics, should we also ban coal? Power plants?

    Yes. They must eventually be replaced with environmentally friendlier alternatives. Carcinogens are unacceptable and should never be willingly ingested just for fun.

    All of them concur that …

    Citation needed. Which specific articles are you referring to when you say “All of them”? Call me crazy, but I have a hutch you did not read every single cannabis study that’s ever been written.

    … a lot of the meta-analysis point to …

    Citation needed. Which meta-analysis? Written by whom? When?

    none of them claim causation.

    Citation needed. Which specific articles are you referring to when you say “none of them”? Call me crazy, but I have a hutch you did not read every single cannabis study that’s ever been written.

  • Going up a ladder and using a car fulfill a practical purpose, and there are numerous safety precautions you can take to minimize the potential risk of an injury. On the contrary, recreational cannabis is explicitly done for fun, and there isn’t really a “risk-safe” way of developing schizophrenia due to substance abuse lmao

    Do you think we should ban every activity that is as risky as consuming marijuana? If not, why not? Why marijuana and not everything else.

    Your use of the word “risky” implies that there’s a consequence-free way of doing cannabis. There is not. You will always suffer adverse health effects by doing marijuana.

    And to answer your question, no. Because security precautions can be taken to do other fun activities safely. There are no sufficient precautions which would allow you to do marijuana 100% safely.

  • Your perception of lemmy has been tainted by the kind of communities you interact with. You and I have wildly different experiences on this app.

    Part of the reason you feel this way may be caused by you being subscribed to unpopularopinion, an inherently contrarian community. If you’d like to be happy, stop following that community.

    I also encourage you to avoid engaging in political conversations with non-rational people: It is extremely unlikely that they will change their minds, and even if you do reach an understanding, that conversation is really likely to leave you with a sour feeling.

    In comparison, the communities I’m in are mostly about memes, IT, privacy and LGBT stuff. No news about the war, and no political arguments with random, possibly deranged, users.

    The instance I’m in doesn’t even have downvotes! Depending on how you use lemmy, you can have either really good or really bad experiences. I recommend u to try to avoid conflict, and maybe even switch to a downvote-less instance.