What is a “non-authoritarian” state? You didn’t answer my question, you just restated your assertion. What “alternatives” exist?
My position is very clear: the state is a tool by which one class oppresses the others, and this is by definition authoritarian. A working class state, no matter how democratic it is for the working classes, is still authoritarian as it oppresses the rest. This is a necessary step forward towards stateless society, however.
Why do you assume anyone against a former soldier with Nazi tattoos is a bot?
I personally think that any situation where people are pressed between Susan Collins and a boot that killed people for fun, we should be overthrowing the system entirely.
Oh yea, they’ll pretend we all disappear after election day after we’ve ruined the cycle or whatever.
The violence even happens regardless of whoever we vote for, the problem is pacifism in the face of oppression just sides with the oppressor.
It’s a good meme for sure, just wanted to put a positive, actionable spin on that. It’s up to instances to reject that shit.
I’d say this is more something done at the instance level. Each instance has its own vibe, some are very much on the dark road while others are on the light road.
QinShiHuangsSchlong already responded pretty well to your sources, which are frankly pretty terrible. I’ll attempt to address the argument itself.
So I would suggest to rely on self-organized working classes.
What is the “self-organized working classes?” Why do you draw a distinction between the proletariat organizing state power, and the “self-organizing” proletariat? I assume you mean unions and the like, but these take on very different contexts depending on the system they find themselves in.
Are they supported or not by the organization, states or union we talking about ? U.S, Nato, Russian federation, Europe, Ukraine, Israel, People’s Republic of China, all this state crush unions or collective that ask too much or are too independent.
This is metaphysics. You’re taking a handful of fascist settler colonies, inter imperialist organizations, imperialist countries, and then one nationalist anti-imperialist state and one socialist anti-imperialist state, in order to equate them all. This is horrendously dishonest. Independent unions in, say, the US are organizing to contest the brutal exploitation of the capitalist system. China on the other hand has the largest federation of unions in the world, and is a socialist state, thus “independent” unions are contesting both this broader federation of unions and the socialist state itself. These are entirely different circumstances that you paint as equal.
And what we see is that supporting those state or organization weaken the expression of a self-aware proletariat and enforce the tools of its repression.
Except this isn’t the case of every state you listed, just some of them. You listed cases where this is indisputably true alongside cases where this is false and used that as evidence alone.
This is really where your entire argument rests on, the hope that people will not actually look beyond surface-level comparison to understand the complexity and context that fundamentally makes these cases entirely different.
I’d love to visit if I ever get the chance, for now the best I can do is pay attention to what’s available.
The crisis in Ukraine was sparked by aggressive NATO expansion, a western-backed Banderite coup in 2014, and the inability of Russia to resolve the ensuing civil war and ethnic cleansing committed by the new Kiev regime against the Donbass with the Minsk agreements. Russia wanted to join NATO decades ago and join the imperialist club, but the west decided it would rather re-colonize Russia, hence the reciprocation from Russia.
Very cool! Made a test account, might play around with it.
Aren’t you getting that reversed? Kiev has been attacking the seperatists in Donetsk and Luhansk, civilians included, since the Banderite coup in 2014.
Russia has absolutely no interest in invading Europe. This is a narrative used to justify increasing European military budgets as the spoils of imperialism are drying up and the global south is gaining more independence from the US and Europe. NATO is a blight on human progress and needs to be dissolved for a better future.
NATO is the inter-imperialist alliance. Imperialism isn’t war, it’s a stage in capitalism and it results in vast plundering of resources and exploitation of labor in the periphery for the benefit of the imperial core. War is used as one option to maintain imperialism, as are sanctions and the buildup of dependence (such as exporting machinery that requires specific spare parts that only the imperialist country can produce).
The USSR was anti-imperialist, which is why so much of the west was hostile towards it. The USSR was aiding liberation movements around the world, which dramatically hurt the profits of the western ruling classes.
What is “auth left?” Any leftist that supports the use of a socialist state?
What 50 year old disproven theory are you referring to?
Lmao