Your own source says Obama rejected sending weapons, but approved other non-weapon aid.

The single comment you sourced says they didn’t want Ukraine’s conflict with Russia to escalate.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/when-america-toes-moscows-line-214970/

Ukrainian leaders told me that the only action that Secretary of State Kerry and other American interlocutors took was to insist that the government in Kiev should do nothing to provoke Russia, in particular strongly urging Ukrainians not to use force

So your insistence that my word choice is nefarious is only reinforced by your anemic attempt at what you pretend is “research”.

You’re misleading people, it did send weapons just not the one that was requested at the time.

No. This is not accurate.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-ukraine-military-aid-sheets-pillows-fact-check/index.html

Facts First: Trump is being hyperbolic here. While the Obama administration was criticized for its refusal to provide lethal assistance to Ukraine, it did provide more than $100 million in security assistance, as well as a significant amount of defense and military equipment.

Lethal aid is weapons. Armored humvees are not weapons.

The idea that you think I’m a Trump supporter after reading my comment history is hilarious and says way more about you than it does about me.

LOL. Continuing the time honored tradition of believing that anyone who disagrees with you is an evil nefarious paid actor.

Let’s not forget that Trump was the first president in history to send weapons to Ukraine. All prior presidents including Obama said it was far to provocative to do so.

The CIA for the last 4 years has reported that Russia has neither the will nor the capability to capture and hold Ukraine. The only people who are saying it are people like you. Russia will not take all of Ukraine because it does not serve them to do so and it is not militarily feasible for them to do so.

Uhhh, Russia is fascist? They privatized all their industry, including their military industry, they scapegoat an internal enemy, and they believe in the ultimate supremacy of their own demographic?

IQ only means something within a small subset of the establishment. It’s a made up thing that is highly biased towards white European men. Yes, the system will hold you back if they determine you to have a low IQ, but for thousands of years people of all intelligences successfully lived in societies with others.

You have to give up the belief that the system is the sum total of reality. It’s the reason you wonder if your life is over at 23 - because the system is narrow and myopic and only has a little space in it and everyone else is pushed out. But the system isn’t even half of real life, and when you find the rest of life by giving up on the system you’ll find your life is just beginning.

Carl Jung even said that life doesn’t start until 40 - everything before that is just research.

Uhhhh, which communist entities is the US about to become buddy-buddy with?

I love that the USA has the power to order a Chinese country not to ship things it makes to other parts of China.

There is literally no need for compromat on Trump at this point. Between Stormy Daniels and Epstein and being convicted of felonies, the compramat can’t actually do anything. It’s unlikely that there IS any compramat. It’s much more likely that, as a NYC real estate mogul, Trump has extensive business dealings with the Russian mob and the top Russian billionaires.

Please tell me this is sarcasm. The fact that there have been so much consistent reporting over such a long period of time about NATO and Ukraine means it absolutely needs to be considered.

I don’t even need an article to refute all of that - Russia attacked a neighbor unprovoked, NATO has attacked NOBODY ever.

Again, please tell me this is satire. NATO has attacked multiple countries over the years. But also, since the advent of nuclear weapons, firing the first shot stopped being the standard. Because the first shot can now be a total annihilation shot, no country is capable of having a strategy that judges threats only by who fired the first shot. It must be judged by who is establishing the positioning to undermine security. Russia is not deploying nuclear capabilities around the world. The USA is deploying nuclear capabilities around the world, and in Europe it is doing so through NATO. This may be a shock to you, but deploying nuclear capabilities to undermine the security of another nation is NOT an act of peace.

It’s OK. We don’t need you to understand. We love each other very much and defend each other against people like you. Insults are one of the ways we get people like you to leave. Now go on … git!

That’s a white puritan definition of perfection, and perfection itself is a white supremacist Christian concept. You may think you’re an atheist but you have a lot of Christendom to shed.

Emotions are super potent. You will not be whole until you feel all of them and work with them on a regular basis. Eliminating anger from your life is a totalitarian strategy based on a Christian ideology that is fundamentally anti-human. Anger is amazing.

Yes, the standards you are holding for yourself are absolutely toxic and you will suffer from them long-term.

I’ve literally seen you accused of illiteracy multiple times in this post ALONE.

Perhaps your literacy problem is bigger than we thought.

This is just to start training and organizing the guerilla cells that will be left behind for the protracted conflict.

I think maybe you’re just not a very careful reader.

Because America is dying?

I’m not doing acceleration. You libs really gotta figure out the difference between the layers of reality. This is happening. I didn’t vote for Trump. I didn’t advocate for Trump to be elected on the grounds that it would accelerate collapse. But here we are. It’s happening. I’m not going to fucking weep for America. That doesn’t make me an accelerationist.

“Newly fascist US” is pretty ridiculous when you consider the 1939 Nazi rally at MSG in NYC, Operation Paperclip, Operation Gladio, the USA selecting former Nazi officers to lead NATO, Hitler’s explicit writings in Mein Kampf of following the American model of indigenous genocide, black slavery, and apartheid, the USA’s repeated veto of the UN resolution to condemn the worshiping of Nazis, the neverending free-speech protections of white supremacist and neonazis simultaneous with the neverending police murder and brutality of black and brown people, etc, etc, etc.

And Canada doesn’t get a pass on this either. They, too, glorify Nazis while raping and murdering indigenous people.

Weep for America… fuck right off.

Wow. So the US, France, England, Germany, Spain, Portugal, and the Netherlands have been regularly banned from international sporting events? That’s cool. Never heard of that.

You don’t understand anything about military reality, let alone actual motivations.

The CIA itself reports and has been reporting for years that Putin has no expansionist ambitions politically and no expansionist capabilities militarily.

There’s a reason why the Russian military has not tried to take Kiev and it’s because defending supply lines across the wide open plains of Ukraine is incredibly difficult and costly.

Russia is not capable of taking all of Eastern Europe and holidng and it has no plans or intentions to do so.

Respect is when you promise to walk away if your discursive partner refuses to accept your faulty premises.