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Cake day: June 18th, 2023

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  • If we’re speaking in pure hypotheticals, then to me personally, if you raise the animal like you would a pet, then at the end of their life when they die naturally, if you butchered the remains, cooked it, and ate it, that would fall under my definition of vegan. But as you indicated, that’s going to depend on each vegan’s definition.

    However, my point still stands that animals who die of natural causes are generally not healthy in the end. Think of elderly humans. They either die due to disease or cancer, or they are skin and bones, right?

    There’s a reason animals are slaughtered earlier in their lives. Part of it is quicker turnaround on profit, but part of it is the quality of the meat.




  • Those scenarios fall under the “as far as possible and practical” clause. Plants and fungi need insects to pollinate them, and microorganisms for nutrients. Veganism isn’t a death-cult, so we have to eat something. Therefore, those insects and microorganisms are necessary.

    Ditto for immune system and hand sanitizer. They are necessary parts of being human.

    Another common one to ask about is animals killed in the process of farming, such as field mice that are caught in machinery. I also recognize those as necessary in the current system, but I do grow some of my own food as a small way to minimize those things, and I believe that if more people cared, we could eliminate that problem. But it’s not something in my power, so I must classify it under the “as far as possible and practical” clause.

    Another is animals that die as a result of roads. My answer to that one is /c/fuckcars


  • Vegan here. Interesting question! I think you’re going to get a different answer depending on the vegan you talk to. Personally, this is the definition of veganism I subscribe to:

    “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.”

    By that definition, for me, it is not vegan. If the VFT has been grown by humans, and fed insects, then that is non-vegan, because there was a lot of animal suffering that went into growing that VFT. Furthermore, VFTs are not required for sustaining the human body, so the only reason to do this is for human pleasure or something.

    Edit to add: if the VFT was found in nature, I probably still wouldn’t consume it, because 1) I don’t even know if VFTs are edible 2) if they are, I’ve got better food with me that probably caused less animal suffering, and are less morally ambiguous.












  • Grain bowl. Mix one or more from each of these categories into a bowl:

    1. Some sort of grain (white rice, brown rice, quinoa, barley, buckwheat, farro, etc)
    2. Some sort of legume or protein (lentils, beans, peas, chickpeas, tofu, etc)
    3. Greens (kale, spinach, lettuce, etc)
    4. Other veggies (carrots, beets, onion, peppers, tomatoes, okra, etc)
    5. Sauce (salad dressing, hummus, bbq, red pepper sauce, miso dressing sauce)

    Most of these ingredients are dirt cheap, and packed with nutrients and fiber and other goodness.


  • My opinion:

    Trucks used pragmatically for farming or legit hauling stuff is perfectly fine.

    Cars used in true rural areas are also fine, because by definition, they haven’t been developed yet, so there’s pretty much no other way to get there.

    But in populated areas (not just “cities” but also suburbs and other areas that are not truly rural and extremely spread out), spaces should be designed for walkability, and have good mass transit options. If a neighborhood is being built, put a small grocery store right next to it, so all those people can get groceries without driving. And put a bus stop near it, so they can get to other areas of town they actually need to go.

    Cars aren’t going away entirely. They serve a specific purpose. But they’re overused.