Might be news to you, but the US’s “definition” of communism is about as relevent as the US’s definition of “leftism”…

So, yes, the definition of what “communism”… It’s best to go to the source of the word, and what the talked about it meaning, rather than Joe McCarthy.

Not universal, and something like 36% believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

But all of them voted to ban abortion, so they can sod off with “Well, it’s not what I believe”…

Something like 15% believe immigration should increase, and 37% believe it should stay the same. Believing immigration should decrease is a minority opinion among Republicans.

And yet, they voted to eliminate all non-white immigration. So, again, they can sod off.

Not sure what you mean by that, Democrats also want to control health care, that’s why the ACA exists (they want everyone enrolled in health insurance, which gives the government more control over health care).

The ACA regulated health insurance, not health care. Reich Wingers want health care choices controlled, while de-regulating corporations.

If you can be more precise, I can look up some statistics.

Look up the percentage that voted for Trump, and that’s your percentage of people who are Reich Wingers and want to have the state tell humans what health care they can get like:

• Hormone therapy
• Mental healthy care
• Reproductive health care

About 41% of Republicans believe religious Republicans have too much control over the GOP, and about 27% of Republicans are unaffiliated with any particular religion, 13% are atheist, and 34% say “nothing in particular” (I guess that means areligious).

What percentage of them voted for Trump?

Because that percentage voted for a Christofascist system of government.

Trumpism is isolationist, which is the opposite of wanting to interfere w/ other countries. There are a lot of anti-Trump Republicans (in 2019, though they’re probably not going to be as vocal this term.

Trump is an isolationist. Unless it’s:

• Israel
• Russia
• North Korea
• Anywhere in the middle east with brown people living there
• A place that has oil, or real estate he can profit from

So if you’re looking for anti-interference Republicans, look no further than Trump. There are also plenty of anti-interventionist Republicans in the anti-Trump crowd as well.

Sure… “Anti-interference”, unless it’s a friend of his like Putin, or Assad, etc etc.

So yeah, there’s a bunch of stats for you. I’m also guessing we’ll see those numbers go up quite a bit after Trump’s term is up, because a lot of those answers are likely colored by recent rhetoric.

Those stats are meaningless. The only stat that matters is who they voted for.

I could list specific politicians if that’s what you’re looking for, but I find that much less interesting than statistics.

Sure, find me a Reich Winger who isn’t what I described. I’m sure they will be a lot like “Trump is really anti-interference!”

Secondly, you make no explanations for how Marxism-Leninism “drops the scientific aspect” of Marxism.

Ok, so show us a Marxist-Leninist society, that hasn’t turned into back into an oligarchy.

I’ll wait.

That is wholly incorrect.

Neozapatismo is also type Marxism, and is not Marxist-Leninist. They are a non-white manner of organizing a communist society. (They will claim they are “None of the above”, rightfully so, however, analysis will show it’s a Marxist-based ideology and system, with some Anarchist ideology too).

Leninism is in fact, a departure from Marxism, as it fully drops the “scientific” part of the entire ideology. In fact, Leninism, arguably, isn’t even socialist, since it merely gives us new oligarchs in lieu of the old oligarchs.

It could have been an experiment in Marxism, and I’d say it was an experiment in Marxism. However, it is certainly a failed experiment. The Neozapatistas have persisted for 30 years now, for example, and are so far doing much better than the Soviet Union did as a liberatory movement. Same with Maoism, which started off good, but made the same mistakes the Soviets did, and now we just have another capitalist state.

Its literally the communism described by Marx, which, is, by nature, THE Definition of what communism is: https://web.archive.org/web/20090605001014/http://www.economictheories.org/2009/05/full-communism-ultimate-goal.html

That’s literally the definition of communism.

Yes, Marxism works. Leninism (And it’s offshoots) do not.

That is literally what makes up right wing ideology… Prove me wrong. Because, yes, every Reich Winger thinks that some level of control over others is a requirement of society.

Control of women’s bodies.

Control of immigrants.

Control of health care.

Control of religious views.

Control of other countries.

Show me a Reich Winger who doesn’t believe that someone needs to control others, and I’ll walk that back.

I think printers is kinda going the way of having to support winmodems for Linux… Just not as important as it used to be.

Last time I printed something was for a pistol permit. 3 years ago. And I just sent that to Office Depot to print it, and picked it up on the way to the permit office.

Students at the local uni don’t really need printers, either. Generally, the few times they do, there’s public printers to email the doc to, and go pick up (Or, QR code and a phone, etc).

Personal printers just aren’t that big of a deal these days.

and this new frame has no theoretical basis for being a road at all unless you can make the case that central planning and public ownership of underdeveloped sectors of the economy is reasonable unilaterally

There is no rational argument to say this. In fact, lessons borne out of past revolutionary experiments have shown us this is the route that leads to failure. Centralization of control, into the hands of the few, never leads to liberation of the working class.

That was a lesson he was learning, as well, and it was in its infancy at the time. We’ve had many more examples to learn from, and don’t need to try it again.

“Started down the track” is how I make that claim. He went from very staunchly “Seize the state, and use it to implement communism!” to “Well, thats not such a hot idea… we need to re-work that”.

You know, the “scientific” part of “Scientific Socialism”.

I never said he was an anarchist, and I never said he claimed it should or could be done in a single stroke.

Scientific Socialism requires one to learn from the past, and adapt as needed. It doesn’t mean a dogmatic prescription of “how”.

Of course, discussing political ideology is “partisan”… Its exactly what we’re talking about.

And no, they’re not just talking points, it’s literally how we describe the various systems of political ideology… Reich Wingers look to construct a society around control and subservience. And, like I said, the question of “who” to obey, and how strictly people are to be controlled are what differentiates the various Reich Wing ideologies.

Reich Wing ideology, the entire thing, relies on subservience and deference to authority. The difference in the various flavors of it are just how much and who.

Marx started to rework (greatly) his ideas of “The state” and if it should be seized or abolished early. He started leaning to “abolished quickly, and early”.

Nothing in there contradicts what I said here… There’s not fascist about preventing fascism from taking root. You’re making the same mistake made in “On Authority”, and calling revolutions where the people cast off their chains of oppression as “Authoritarian”…

I’m going out on a limb here, and guessing you have a high end video card that is causing probably 99% of your problems, likely an NVidia.

I’m using KDE on MXLinux on a old macbook, and I don’t have these graphical glitches you mention.

Oh, I get what Marx had said… Marx also changed his view post Paris Commune. He started down the track that its impossible to abolish the state, after concentrating all power in the state, as those holding power will never give it up.

And yes, governance is not the state, and yes, Marx later agreed with that point, as well.

Fascism has a very clear definition. And who decides the malcontents? That’s also easy: Are you trying to harm people? Then you are a malcontent.

You are attempting to obfuscate the discussion here. We all know what fascism is. We also all know its wrong to hurt people.

I’d cut the booze, but yeah, I toke up. A lot.