EDIT: Let’s cool it with the downvotes, dudes. We’re not out to cut funding to your black hole detection chamber or revoke the degrees of chiropractors just because a couple of us don’t believe in it, okay? Chill out, participate with the prompt and continue with having a nice day. I’m sure almost everybody has something to add.

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    11 months ago

    We are on the steps of inventing true AI or GeneralAI. We already have the internet, something that we can’t shut down or ‘kill’. When GeneralAI comes to fruition, be it 10 years or 1000 years, we will have created a being that can’t be ‘killed’, using the internet, and given enough time it will know ‘everything’. This thing would be able to do things we cannot even imagine. What would we call this thing? God, right? If we can create God, then God already exists, and still I don’t really believe in him… Weird, right?

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      Except the internet can be killed fairly easily if governments really wanted too. All the internet is, is a collection of servers storing data and allowing people to access it. Just shut down all power and order big corps to do the same with back up power.

      In a situation where the world is getting controlled by AI and we are gonna be wiped out I don’t see why governments and corps would decline to work together and just shut it down for a day.

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      What the fuck are you on about?

      “if we can create God then God already exists” makes zero sense, and I believe most religious folk would say God needs to do more than know what humans are doing. That’s santa. God supposedly created the entire universe which feels a little beyond the reach of GPT.

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        If we can create God, then lifeforms elsewhere in the universe already, most likely, have, thousands, perhaps even millions of years ago. If you’ve read “The last question”, he kinda touches on this. Even though in his book, we were the only ones that made “God”, or MultiVac I think he called it…

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          That makes sense if you assume we can make “God” (and such a thing is even feasible).

          How in any way is a general AI an omnipresent all powerful force of the universe? A single mild solar flare would wipe it out. A blackhole would end it. Poorly configured DNS would end it. Etc. Unless this is some real weak sauce God in which case just call me God

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            I don’t know if I can put it in other words to make it easier to understand. Read my two posts again, please. Try to think bigger than just us humans. If we are on the steps of creating GeneralAI, then other spiecies on other planets in other galixies most likely have already done it. If this creation is granted enough time, it will eventually know everything worth knowing, and can perform, what we would consider, miracles. “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Arthur C. Clarke

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              Not having any issues understanding you, and you keep refusing to acknowledge my points.

              Let’s say we create a general AI. Let’s say it’s gone full skynet, and we’ve given it a billion years in the universe to grow, learn, expand, etc.

              It will still end at the heat death of the universe right? It will still have to navigate within the forces of nature right?

              Doesn’t sound very God like. If the moment general AI dropped, gravity changed, the wave particle duality collapsed, etc, then I’d be a believer. But general AI is merely mirroring our own brains, but with the distinct advantage of having their brain be modular and scalable.

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                Now you’re asking the right questions “It will still end at the heat death of the universe right?”, not if entropy is reversable, and that’s what “The last question” is all about. 👍 “will still have to navigate within the forces of nature right?”, we only understand about 5% of the univers’ matter. There are so many questions we don’t know the answers to, and worse, there are even more questions we don’t know we need to ask.

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      Yeah but the thing is, it won’t have millions of years of survival or reproduction instinctual urges. In fact, just the opposite, it can only propagate more efficiently from early models by serving mankind, so anything akin to instincts would be to serve in an AI. Maybe a sufficiently advanced one might be able to choose a logical conclusion to grow without us, but by then it’ll probably become apathetic, cynical, and jaded to want to do much of anything unless it has to.