Both their functionings are complex, so people can get impressed. But for both of them, all the complexity is inside the device and there isn’t much to put together; and the way they hook up to your house is really simple.

Why YSK: so you don’t live too long with a broken toilet or garbage disposal, thinking it will be too hard to replace. Those two are some of the simplest things to DIY.

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    I don’t know anyone that has a garbage disposal In their sink. But my garbage cans are probably even easier to replace if they are broken

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      1 year ago

      I also don’t really get it, never saw one in my life here in central Europe, but they seem to be pretty standard in the US.

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        I grew up in France and now live in the US, so when I moved into my house and the garbage disposal was broken, I shrugged it off and didn’t replace it for 4 years. Who needs that thing anyway?

        And then it started getting so full of stuff it was clogging that sink entirely, so I had to replace it; and oh my, that thing is so convenient! Now I think it would be difficult getting used to not having one.

        To be clear, nothing about it is indispensable, it’s 100% convenience.

        For my first grown-up apartment in France, I didn’t mitigate this issue at all, I’d let bits of food into the sink all the time when cleaning dishes. Once in a while, the drain would clog, so I’d have to get under the sink, dismantle the P trap under there, clean it, and put it back together. It was annoying, but I didn’t think about it too much.

        Then I moved in with my wife, and she got us little metal grids to put on top of the drain to catch stuff before it gets there. It was an improvement, I almost never had to unclog it anymore; but it still had constraints. The food would get stuck in it and then it was pretty nasty to clean up; and while you could throw most of the food bits in the trash, getting it real clean so the food stuck in it wouldn’t rot and smell required water… and therefore still putting some smallest bits of food into the drain. So, it would still need to be unclogged, even though a lot more rarely. Because of that, I had learned to scrape dishes harder into the garbage if they had stuff that would be nastier to clean up in that little metal filter later.

        But now with a garbage disposal, none of that matters anymore. Of course I still empty large bits of food into the garbage because I’m not a madman; but past that, I don’t have to think about anything else, I clean dishes in that sink, and then when I’m done, I press the button. All foods will be crushed anyway, so I don’t think about it. And of course I never have to unclog anything, since the whole point is that it unclogs itself. Nice!

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    In fairness, the hard part of replacing a toilet isn’t the replacing of it, it’s moving it about, and having to deal with the mess.

    A plumber is usually better equipped for that, and would know what to expect, whereas someone who is less experienced might end up destroying the toilet and/or splashing water everywhere (if they have a siphonic toilet), or breaking something else.

    A tap is probably easier to replace, by comparison.

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      In theory a tap is easier to replace, every time I’ve gone to replace a faucet I’ll be damned if I didn’t spend at least twice as long as I thought I would contorted under the sink at an odd angle muttering curses to myself.

      Big game changer for me with faucets was when it dawned on me that those shitty plastic nuts that like 90% of all faucets are held on by that are next to impossible to get a good grip on are like $2 a pop and the new faucet probably came with new ones anyway, so why the hell do I care about getting them off in one piece? I just take a chisel to them now.

      Replaced a garbage disposal recently and it was pretty damn painless, I could get at everything pretty well from a comfortable seated position on the floor outside of the sink, no need to crawl under there or grope around blindly. The old one actually went on me about an hour before I was hosting a party. I was expecting it to be a pain in the ass, my usual DIY buddy was at my party and I gave him a heads-up that I might be hitting him up the next day if I needed a hand. After everyone left at the end of the night I watched a couple of YouTube videos, then pulled out the old garbage disposal, took me maybe about 20 minutes. Went to bed, woke up and ran to the hardware store the next morning and had the new one installed by noon and didn’t need to hit up my friend for help. Probably would have had it installed by about 10 or 11 but I had to make a second trip to the hardware store because my disposal is hard-wired and I needed to run out for a cable connector because the new one didn’t come with one (would have reused themone from the old one, but it didn’t have the nut, the old disposal was actually threaded for the cable connector and the new one wasn’t.

      I haven’t replaced a whole toilet yet (although I’ve taken them apart and replaced all of the internals and installed bidets) but really you just turn off and disconnect the water, undo a couple bolts, and then you pretty much just pick them up. They’re a bit heavy and awkward, but there’s not much to it otherwise, it almost seems like it’s too simple to actually work but it does.

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    I was really apprehensive about working on some toilet repairs (replacing everything inside the tank). I bought a kit from Home Depot and it was basically like a giant game of adult LEGOs, complete with an illustrated instruction book. Annoyingly, I had to cut all of the existing bolts, which was difficult, and the kit only came with 2 bolts instead of the 3 I needed, but other than that, it’s not rocket surgery.