Hello! I’m setting up a kbin instance, and while it’s a little hard to tell thanks to the 0.19 breakage, it seems to be interoperating to some degree with most of the fediverse. I can post messages back and forth, at least.

With lemmy.world, though, it’s not working. I get messages like this in the log:

Get fail: https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819, https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819
Bots Temporarily Blocked

And, indeed, it seems like lemmy.world is configured to reject connections from user-agents containing the word “bot”. This is what happens when I access the same URL while manually setting user-agent to what kbin uses for client HTTP requests:

$ wget -nv --user-agent="kbinBot/0.1 (+https://my.domain/bot)" https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819
https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819:
2024-01-07 05:25:43 ERROR 412: Precondition Failed.

And, verifying that the word “bot” is the issue:

$ wget -nv --user-agent="kbinAgent/0.1 (+https://my.domain/agent)" https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819
2024-01-07 05:25:56 URL:https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819 [264000] -> "6458819.2" [1]

$ wget -nv https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819
2024-01-07 05:26:06 URL:https://lemmy.world/comment/6458819 [264006] -> "6458819.3" [1]

While I can understand that many bots are harmful so this is probably a necessary measure, it seems to me like this will break federation with all kbin instances (unless they figure out to change their user agent). No? Would it maybe be a good idea to add an exception to this for kbinBot? I may have misunderstood something, as I’m new to all this, just saying how it looks to me poking at it briefly.

Also, is it okay if I change my user-agent so that it doesn’t contain the forbidden word? Presumably there’s no administrative reason kbin and lemmy.world shouldn’t talk.

  • Rooki@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    We say “Bot” to everything not user/frontend interaction. It was just in the last time very much. Almost up to 2.7 million. If we didnt knew it was “just the federation” we thought we would get ddosed. After we actived the “Bot” blocking it went under 500 active connections per hour.