The difference is gas cars can be started and driven away after warming up. Electric cars like Tesla need to have their batteries charged, if they fully discharge their batteries it can cause major damage to them essentially bricking the car.
Design problem of the Tesla, it allows one to discharge to a point where battery damage can occur. My volt, and my 500e will not allow such. They did this to be able to claim more range without having to increase battery capacity.
And even gasoline vehicles can be damaged by running the tank too low/out.
Fuel pump overheat and strainer clogging is a very real thing when the tank is too low.
Diesels can damage their lift and high pressure pumps when run empty.
My point stands, a gasoline car that is sitting outside in the cold turned off will not damage the car. A Tesla that allows itself to discharge the battery to the point of damaging major components is not suitable for the city with limited charging stations and extremely cold weather.
I disagree about them being “not suitable”, there are plenty of people who don’t have problems with them.
Electric cars are still in their early stages, where it’s not common knowledge how they work and what one needs to do to prevent the worst issues.
I’d bet there’s plenty of instances where similar issues happened with gas cars in their infancy. People didn’t change the oil, or didn’t maintain properly and the car was essentially junk because of it.
I think that most of the people who got stuck at the charging stations was because they didn’t actually turn off the car, they ran it dead with the cabin heat, then left it with sentry mode and cabin temp protection on. Along with the fact that they didn’t know or didn’t have a level 2 station to go to instead of insisting on level 3.
Is this a problem? Of course it is, but it’s not a problem for other manufacturers who have safeties in their software, or people who own Tesla’s who understand how the Tesla operates.
Do we need more charging stations? Yes, though we also need people either be taught, or learn, more about their vehicle and it’s operation. This goes for any vehicle, not just EV.
Y’all acting like lake shore Ave didn’t become a gas powered graveyard during a blizzard a decade ago.
Ssssshhhh! We’re having a circlejerk here!
But it’s still a bad comparison.
Everyone got stuck because of 2’ of snow. Not because of powertrain issues with the vehicles.
It’s actually most likely just because the superchargers didn’t get enough power. Source
The difference is gas cars can be started and driven away after warming up. Electric cars like Tesla need to have their batteries charged, if they fully discharge their batteries it can cause major damage to them essentially bricking the car.
All them gas cars had to be towed the fuck away.
Because gas cans don’t exist?
Because the owners were evacuated and unavailable when the snow plows were trying to come through.
But those gassers didn’t require a $20,000 battery replacement.
I mean these people aren’t going to have to replace their batteries. They will just have to wait until warmer weather.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/does-going-to-0-damage-the-battery.188609/
And you can deliver fuel easily, by hand, to a car that’s out of gas.
This does make me feel like a portable generator, some jumper cables, and a pallet jack could be a viable business for these events.
Who the fuck downvoted you? You’re literally stating a fact.
Probably some crybaby who thinks I don’t like their tesla because it’s electric, when in reality I don’t like it because it’s a poorly made car.
I’ve been downvoted for asking what happens to Teslas during extreme cold before.
People insist it’s fine because it can be heated while charging, but what happens when you go to work or the store, or get stuck like this.
Tesla fans are mooks.
Design problem of the Tesla, it allows one to discharge to a point where battery damage can occur. My volt, and my 500e will not allow such. They did this to be able to claim more range without having to increase battery capacity.
And even gasoline vehicles can be damaged by running the tank too low/out. Fuel pump overheat and strainer clogging is a very real thing when the tank is too low. Diesels can damage their lift and high pressure pumps when run empty.
My point stands, a gasoline car that is sitting outside in the cold turned off will not damage the car. A Tesla that allows itself to discharge the battery to the point of damaging major components is not suitable for the city with limited charging stations and extremely cold weather.
I disagree about them being “not suitable”, there are plenty of people who don’t have problems with them.
Electric cars are still in their early stages, where it’s not common knowledge how they work and what one needs to do to prevent the worst issues.
I’d bet there’s plenty of instances where similar issues happened with gas cars in their infancy. People didn’t change the oil, or didn’t maintain properly and the car was essentially junk because of it.
I think that most of the people who got stuck at the charging stations was because they didn’t actually turn off the car, they ran it dead with the cabin heat, then left it with sentry mode and cabin temp protection on. Along with the fact that they didn’t know or didn’t have a level 2 station to go to instead of insisting on level 3.
Is this a problem? Of course it is, but it’s not a problem for other manufacturers who have safeties in their software, or people who own Tesla’s who understand how the Tesla operates.
Do we need more charging stations? Yes, though we also need people either be taught, or learn, more about their vehicle and it’s operation. This goes for any vehicle, not just EV.
You’re acting as if it’s a normal problem to have.