• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Volunteer. The USA never told him to go. It was his decision and he knew the risks. But that doesn’t mean these volunteers can be the butt of your jokes or memes.

      Secondly: because its to the American Benefit to have the Ukrainians test out our war-capacity. 155mm, Drones, and HIMARS, and Stinger Missiles have been proven to be needed. Thanks to the Ukrainian war, we’re building up capacity but we need someone “using” that equipment to justify the buildout of these production lines.

      Its an obvious way to get US Steel and manufacturing kick-started again. Stinger Missiles in particular were in a sorry state, with all production lines torn down. Its going to take another 4 years before we get another Stinger Missile, but it was thanks to the Ukrainians that we discovered the problem.

      The data on the US Patriot system vs Russia’s hypersonic missile will be good practice vs the hypothetical Chinese hypersonic missiles as well, if China vs Taiwan ever goes hot. Its to our advantage to have our technology tested in Ukraine. Why give Europe the field-practice when its so much better for us to get the data instead?

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        This is all true. But more importantly, Russia is attempting to remove Ukraine from the face of the planet while kidnapping their children.

        It is morally correct to help the Ukrainians defend themselves from this evil.

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            How is helping a country defend against an imperialist and genocidal invader somehow immoral?

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            Making fun of dead and/or wounded US Soldiers and/or veterans is not moral. Are you funded by Russians?

            That’s on you for making fun of wounded soldiers in this headline. Explain yourself, or get the fuck out.

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            Yes. This makes a lot of sense. Doing nothing while a dictator attacks unprovoked and kills women, children, and men is actual good.

            Thanks for enlightening me with your infinite wisdom. Praise Putin and all the authoritarian dictators like him.

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                You couldn’t have funded jackshit with those funds because they were not funds, you by and large send over weapons that are about to be decommissioned and value them at replacement costs (which you would’ve done anyway), not their decommissioning costs (which would imply negative value).

                As you were talking healthcare in another comment: The US spends just as much federal tax dollars per capita on health care as the UK spends per capita on the NHS. It’s not that you’re not spending the money it’s that you’d rather shove it into corporate profits than actual medicine.

                You know who’s actually bankrolling Ukraine? As in quite literally paying the wages of state employees because their economy tanked and they have no tax revenue while simultaneously fighting a war? Europe is. And we’re sending weaponry, old and new, not rarely stuff our own armies don’t even have yet.

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      10 months ago

      I urge you to stop and think about what you’re saying, the US did this already before well both world wars and it did not work.