Sciences, sports, politics, news and many more all rely on twitter as a platform that works or used to. There really is a case for a internationally ran system for this. Twitter has such a high value that removing it will have a negative impact. Something that has become so fundamental to getting a message across needs to be ran in a not for profit fashion, rather than see it go to the wall because there is not enough return in it.
Twitter is international. It will not have the same appeal with segregation by nationality.
The Dutch Government has a much higher trust rating than ours has. Can you imagine the same uptake if the UK did likewise. I certainly would have zero trust with the current people in power.
It could be the same for news companies - you’d know that “@krishnangm@channel4.com” is the real guy, because the domain name is owned by Channel 4, and verified by HTTPS.
You’re on feddit.uk and I’m on kbin.social and we’re both still here, commenting on a lemmy.world thread. Unless you’re browsing by local (ie, only posts that are made on your local instance), or your instance is very defederation-happy, it doesn’t have to mean much.
That’s okay, it can be a little hard to wrap your head around!
What helped me is thinking of it like email: I can use a Gmail account, you can use a Hotmail account, and someone else can use their own private mail server. We all go to different websites/programs/apps to access our emails, and those programs might have different features, layouts, etc, but we can all still email each other. They’re all federated with each other. And if you start getting emails from marketing@spamcentral.com, promotions@spamcentral.com, etc, you can block the entire spamcentral.com email domain - ie, defederate from it.
The fediverse works very similarly. We can all use different websites with different layouts and a few different features, but all of them can communicate with each other and show common content because they’re federated with each other.
There’s a big benefit to this: no single company can control the fediverse. If your instance - feddit.uk - has to shut down, or it turns out to be run by nazis, or they start trying to charge users vast amounts of money to use the instance, or make some other move you don’t like, you can just make an account on another instance and continue to use the rest of the fediverse. Maybe a few communities that were hosted on your previous instance will become inaccessible, but the larger fediverse will still be available.
I am fairly savvy with what makes the internet work. If Lemmy is linked then it must have a central control point. This is the piece that I was unaware of.
I was under the impression that each server is freestanding. I have a log in for Feddit and also for Lemmy.
So is each instance (eg: Feddit, Lemmy.one, Lemmy.ml) on a host machine in someone’s home or is it hosted on a main server?
Sciences, sports, politics, news and many more all rely on twitter as a platform that works or used to. There really is a case for a internationally ran system for this. Twitter has such a high value that removing it will have a negative impact. Something that has become so fundamental to getting a message across needs to be ran in a not for profit fashion, rather than see it go to the wall because there is not enough return in it.
The Dutch government have already started their own Mastodon
Twitter is international. It will not have the same appeal with segregation by nationality.
The Dutch Government has a much higher trust rating than ours has. Can you imagine the same uptake if the UK did likewise. I certainly would have zero trust with the current people in power.
Just imagine the cringy name they’d come up with… BritTwit or something.
That’s gross, I bet you’re right
The actual trust in the government isn’t the issue, but having their own Mastodon instance would mean that you know this message came from this government. You can verify it with normal HTTPS, rather than just trusting who Twitter gives the blue checkmark to (anyone remember when the Conservative party changed their Twitter name to Fact Check UK and were able to keep their blue check?)
It could be the same for news companies - you’d know that “@krishnangm@channel4.com” is the real guy, because the domain name is owned by Channel 4, and verified by HTTPS.
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This is Mastodon, there is no segregation. This is just where they’re posting their updates, you can still read them from your own Mastodon instance.
If is it ran by a nationality then it will have segregation. National prejudice is very prevalent.
You’re on feddit.uk and I’m on kbin.social and we’re both still here, commenting on a lemmy.world thread. Unless you’re browsing by local (ie, only posts that are made on your local instance), or your instance is very defederation-happy, it doesn’t have to mean much.
Then I have to apologise for my ignorance. Reddit refugee here. I obviously do not understand how this works yet.
That’s okay, it can be a little hard to wrap your head around!
What helped me is thinking of it like email: I can use a Gmail account, you can use a Hotmail account, and someone else can use their own private mail server. We all go to different websites/programs/apps to access our emails, and those programs might have different features, layouts, etc, but we can all still email each other. They’re all federated with each other. And if you start getting emails from marketing@spamcentral.com, promotions@spamcentral.com, etc, you can block the entire spamcentral.com email domain - ie, defederate from it.
The fediverse works very similarly. We can all use different websites with different layouts and a few different features, but all of them can communicate with each other and show common content because they’re federated with each other.
There’s a big benefit to this: no single company can control the fediverse. If your instance - feddit.uk - has to shut down, or it turns out to be run by nazis, or they start trying to charge users vast amounts of money to use the instance, or make some other move you don’t like, you can just make an account on another instance and continue to use the rest of the fediverse. Maybe a few communities that were hosted on your previous instance will become inaccessible, but the larger fediverse will still be available.
I am fairly savvy with what makes the internet work. If Lemmy is linked then it must have a central control point. This is the piece that I was unaware of. I was under the impression that each server is freestanding. I have a log in for Feddit and also for Lemmy.
So is each instance (eg: Feddit, Lemmy.one, Lemmy.ml) on a host machine in someone’s home or is it hosted on a main server?
Umm, when I comment on Mastodon post, I rarely have any idea what instance they are on
If it was the instance where people could follow NHS, public health, local authoritty and national updates, I think it could fly.
We already have a decent .gov.uk information site.
Because organisations with websites never use Twitter