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    Unlikely. Your political system is broken. One side wants to take it away and the other keeps saying they will prevent it, but when they get in power they do absolutely nothing.

    EDIT: Just to clarify. I’m not on Republicans side, but I’m also willing to callout Democrats for their failures. I just hate money in politics and 95% of politicians are on corporate side not idealogical one.

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            111th Congress (2009–2011)

            Majority Party: Democrats (57 seats)
            Minority Party: Republicans (41 seats)
            Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucused with the Democrats)

            Total Seats: 100

            Note: Senator Arlen Specter was reelected in 2004 as a Republican, and became a Democrat on April 30, 2009. Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected in 2006 as an Independent.

            Source: https://www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm

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              Your link literally discredits your own argument. Not enough people to overturn a filibuster…

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                59+vice president=60

                EDIT: Actually I’m wrong here. Vice president only has tie breaker vote.

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              You spent all that time typing a reply yet you didn’t even read my source…

              He never had 60 present to overcome the filibuster and only passed ACA because Joe fucking Lieberman was bribed by the insurance industry to remove the public option. You should edit your posts for factual accuracy.

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                Oh I read it, written by Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm.

                And if your party member is incapable of voting then he should have resigned a long fucking time ago. That’s on them for not forcing him out. The same way Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have resigned due to her failing health instead of clinging to last vestiges of power.

                I guess you are going to defend Sen. Dianne Feinstein now too, when she incapable of doing her job, but being forced to stay in her position because that’s convientent for Adam Schiff to stay in power.

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                  Moving the goalposts is a lazy form of debate. Thank you for admitting you were wrong about Obama having a supermajority and should have codified abortion rights.

                  I will agree with you that they should have forced Ginsburg out and Feinstein should have been voted out a year ago. But that’s not what you initially claimed (multiple times, I might add).

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          Look why don’t we just point this out, which is a pretty obvious hole in all this.

          Do you really think the Affordable Care Act would be the way it is if they ever had the majority needed to codify Roe?

          They spent literal years getting filibustered.

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            Absolutely. This is the group that never put the public option on the table to begin with as a show of “good faith bipartisanship”. Which netted them zero votes. We can argue whether Democrats don’t know how to fight or just don’t want to. But for now the result is the same. A few are finally starting to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. But they’re still a minority.

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        People like Sinema and Manchin are a feature of Dem politics, not a bug. They are there to slow everything down and take the heat of unpopularity so that the party can drag its feet on all of their promises.

        Biden’s cabinet split the huge infrastructure bill, ensuring that the parts they wanted would pass and the stuff they promised and didn’t care about would tank.

        I heard someone say that the means testing of student debt relief gave the GOP extra time to sink it in some way.

        The basic playbook is: vote for us or some crazy fucks will be the alternative; we talk a great game, but republicans always find a way to sabotage us when we get there.

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          Then you should just go ahead and vote for the Republicans if your tinfoil hat is on that tight.

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              I love that for you. While we have a 2 party system a vote for the socialists in this context is a vote for Republicans.

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                And that’s how change never happens. You’re forgetting that republicans were a third party who got off the ground because people cared deeply about abolition. We just need to get people aware of how to get Medicaid for all. Also, your snide tone isn’t useful.

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        I mean they had both houses of congress and the presidency in 2009. They could have codified Roe v Wade. Obama even told Planned Parenthood it would be the first thing he’d want to do in office when he was running. Then once he was in office it changed to “not my highest legislative priority.”

        I get there were political reasons for it and he was trying to pass Obama Care but it still sucks.

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      They need more than 49.5 votes with some of them coming from Georgia and West Virginia in order to do much.

      It’s easier to stop things in government than to pass them. Why do the Republicans get so much credit for just stopping things, but the Dems get none?

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        Even when they have full power the Democrats always have someone that will play the bad guy and vote with the Republicans.

        To me Republicans always stick together Democrats can’t get their people to do the same.