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      Firefox a few years ago would kill my Mac battery in a couple hours, now it’s as good as safari for energy management. No reason not to use it as a daily driver now.

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            Not only that, they had goals beyond just a browser. They wanted to create a whole OS ecosystem integrated with the browser. They released Firefox as a side project to just get a browser in everyone’s hands while they worked on Mozilla. Turns out the OS ecosystem in a browser was a bust, and Firefox was a winner. Just the Mozilla devs haven’t stopped being bitter about it. The old Netscape motivations around the project have been a boat anchor.

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                I remember that! Pretty sure I tried it out on my Nexus 5. It was cool but even then it seemed an impossible hill to climb. Looks like it was forked into a feature phone OS that’s maintained to this day!

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              I mean didn’t they achieve that? Today a lot of things are web based. Firefox is a powerful browser. Especially on Android. So if you want you can have your OS in a browser thingy…

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                Not at all. They created a great browser, which is what us end users wanted, but they never achieved their ecosystem goals.

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        Meh, I’ll be honest and say that I’m not impressed by chrome in modern day. While I hate Microsoft, edge is a nicer browser to use than chrome, and that’s saying something

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          I agree, but I think that the normies like to use Chrome because… that’s what everyone is using, so I am eager to see how FF can give a better experience to the normal user.

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            Normies (also me) use Gmail, it’s easy when you login to your browser and you’re partially already authenticated everywhere else.

            Same goes for android.

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              it’s easy when you login to your browser and you’re partially already authenticated automatically sending your personal, private information everywhere else.

              FTFY

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                You’re correct, but the majority of normies don’t care. A lot of people don’t naturally feel a strong impulse towards privacy, so the fact that Google knows everything about them doesn’t really bother them.

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        It already does. I dislike using Chrome. Firefox works better, looks better, and containers are really useful to me.

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      I’ll stick to Safari. I don’t trust Mozilla any more than Google or Microsoft.

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        Ah yes, an open source popular browser that is made by a nonprofit organization is less trustworthy than a close source browser made by a public company

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          An open source organization with a track record of dubious user-hostile behavior.

          Example one

          Example two

          Apple does not add plugins to my browser without my consent, nor do they show ads in my browser.

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          If you’re running Safari, you’re already running their OS. If Apple wants to spy on you, they’ve already got the means to do so, so you’ve already decided to trust them.

          Switching to Chrome or Firefox means trusting one more entity in addition to Apple. This expands your possible exposure.

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          Because with Apple I’m the paying customer, not the product being sold.

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            You’re always both. With Apple, it doesn’t sell your data, but it does sell curated ad space where they use your data to power their tools. While this is less of an invasion of privacy than Google or the atrocity of Meta’s privacy policy, it still exists on a spectrum of how much companies are willing to use your data for extra profit. I’m not saying to not use Apple, hell I’m currently using Microsoft Edge, but I think it’s important to understand that literally every profit-driven company is subject to the same systemic flaws and none of them can be completely trusted.