Can we get a consensus on whether our community should de-federate with servers that host loli? I personally think we should block them, and if that ends up not being the consensus here then I’ll probably sign up on another server. I hope we can all agree to set that boundary though because I like it here and it seems otherwise pretty cool.

  • DarkwingDuck@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    No need to defederate. I just went and blocked loli and related communities that popped up. I will never see them again.

    So, my vote is NAY.

    • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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      2 years ago

      Federation is still young.

      It may be easy to individually block communities now but what about in a few months/years when there are potentially 10x more communities across 10x more instances?

      How intimidating would it be for a new user to have to go through 100+ communities and block them all individually instead of just blocking 5-10 instances?

      • neo (he/him)@lemmy.comfysnug.space
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        2 years ago

        I would block gore communities on a personal level, but there’s no need to do so on a server level unless they’re doing something worth defederating for, like any of the following:

        • posting cp
        • using their server to DoS/DDoS others
        • dox-ing people
        • allowing their users to harass others AND refusing to punish such behavior
        • same as above except for ban evasion

        I’d like to have a force-nsfw option for communities that don’t enforce proper usage of the NSFW tag, but for now I’d have to block them most likely.

      • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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        2 years ago

        Personally, I’m fine with a NSFW tag, and would hope that NSFW instances respect other instances enough to properly tag stuff.

        Any instance with a gore community? Nah, screw that noise. Add it to the block list.

  • Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    For the sake of argument I’ll approach this from a different perspective than everyone else.

    Depending on jurisdiction there might be implications in hosting an instance that is federated with instances that host loli. I’m not familiar enough with Canada’s laws and / or le Code Civil du Québec to know if it is considered CSAM, but assuming it is does federating with those communities replicate the media on this instance as well? Would this count as ‘redistributing it’?

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      2 years ago

      Canada laws on CSAM are very strict. even written fictional text are considered csam by law definition. And yes, a known horror novel writer has been charged for csam production in a fiction book. he’s been acquitted tho, fortunately. But that raise an alarm that tell us that cops can arrest you for pretty much anything . If you sculpt a loli into ficello string cheese , that enter the definition of CP in Canada.

      there is a part of definition saying: "and other visual representation " which is very vague and broad .

      https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-163.1.html