• 1984@lemmy.today
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    4 days ago

    It feels like underneath all this, it’s actually about people refusing to be marginalized and they want to be accepted as everyone else. But I think instead of trying to change words and ban conversations, maybe it’s better to teach people to accept and even enjoy more variations?

    Because right now it’s a bit ridiculous. We are told to ignore obvious differences between people so nobody feels marginalized. That’s likely to make it very difficult to even have a conversation.

    It’s like when you can’t describe someone as black or white, or fat or thin, and it just becomes really humorous in the end, as you are struggling to find other words that are identifying the person.

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      3 days ago

      But I think instead of trying to change words and ban conversations, maybe it’s better to teach people to accept and even enjoy more variations?

      This is naive.

      How are we supposed to teach people to accept variation when they insist that there can be no deviation from the norm?

      Because right now it’s a bit ridiculous. We are told to ignore obvious differences between people so nobody feels marginalized.

      I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make here. Just a moment ago you were complaining that the language we use to talk about this topic was a problem, now we’re supposedly telling people not to talk about it? Pick a lane!

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        Who are you talking about that is insisting there can be no deviation from the norm? And maybe you don’t realize how teaching works… You need someone willing to learn to be able to be able to have a teacher. Banning words and discussions is absolutely the wrong way to go. History has shown this many times.

        And my point is very simple. Don’t ban words. Have open discussions. Don’t support censorship of opinions or words. Don’t be afraid of what people are actually thinking of things. Stop trying to control what people should think, and stop trying to teach them what you think is right.

        People will not read something online and change their minds. Just like you are currently reading my words here, and you will not agree or change your mind. Neither will I. That’s how it works.

        I can’t be your teacher unless you want to be my student.

        • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
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          14 hours ago

          Who are you talking about that is insisting there can be no deviation from the norm?

          Right-wingers, the only people who have ever had a problem with diversity.

          Banning words and discussions is absolutely the wrong way to go.

          I’m confused about what you mean, because the only people doing that are the “Don’t Say Gay” Florida Republicans.

          And my point is very simple. Don’t ban words.

          I get the feeling that you’re going to be angry when I point out that the only people banning words are the ones who want to make it illegal to teach kids that people like me exist.

          Have open discussions. Don’t support censorship of opinions or words.

          Make up your mind, do you want to actually have open discussions or do you think that avoiding censorship of the “opinions and words” of discriminatory groups is more important than the presence of the groups they discriminate against?

          Stop trying to control what people should think, and stop trying to teach them what you think is right.

          What do you think “teaching” is?