Asking because my family history of mental health isn’t super great.

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    It is definitely a thing but is much rarer than certain organisations would have you believe.

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    I had been taking d8 gummies regularly for a few months. Fantastic times. Very trippy and cool. Well, one night I took one, starting watching something on tv and suddenly I’m having all kinds of creepy dark thoughts, heart starts racing, and I get dizzy. I tried calling 911 because I’m not sure where I am or whats happening to me. Couldn’t remember my name kinda trip. Phone keeps melting out of my hand. I’ve never hallucinated that bad on anything before. This probably wasn’t psychosis but I felt like I was in hell. I’ve heard the term “green out”. My guess is, no quality control and my gummy was just super stupid strong. Even though all of them were supposed to be 25mg. I guess my point is be careful with anything you put in your body.

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    It could very much be true, according to this meta-analysis study that showed up at the top of my results after spending 2 seconds looking this up

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7442038/

    I had heard about the causal link between marijuana use and onset of schizophrenia in people predisposed to suffer this illness (i.e. cannabis may be a trigger but these people could’ve developed the illness anyway later in life).

    I didn’t know it could cause psychosis too but there you go. How much truth or risk there is in all this, I can’t say, but I personally am not willing to risk it.

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    There’s a correlation between cannabis use and psychosis, though it’s not clear whether cannabis causes/accelerates psychosis or whether people with tendencies towards psychosis are more likely to self-medicate with cannabis.

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    Literally any drug that is psychoactive can induce psychosis.

    Yes. It is real.

    However, not “causal”. Marijuana doesn’t cause psychosis (in the same way that ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’). Psychoactive drugs can induce psychosis is the accurate way to articulate this.

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    DO NOT ASK SOCIAL MEDIA IMPORTANT MEDICAL QUESTIONS. CONSULT AN EXPERT.

    Almost all of the replies here are wrong or missing important information.

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      Dw I’m not planning on making any important medical decisions based on the answers here, it’s just something I was curious about. I’ll definitely consult a doctor if I ever decide I want to do a weed. I was mostly just curious what other people had to say.

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    This will be unpopular but I have found Marijuana users to be extremely biased against any negatives raised about the drug and conversely very biased towards accepting anything positive. Because of this and the fact that psychosis is rare, i.e. not the typical experience, the answer you are mostly likely to get here is that Marijuana doesn’t cause it. You can only trust their personal “had it or didn’t have it” but not what they say about never seeing it in others.

    Imagine that it causes psychosis in 1 in 1000 users (I don’t know the real ratio this is just for example). That would mean, based on personal experience alone, you would get 999 answers saying it’s totally fine, and 1 saying it causes psychosis. You walk away thinking it’s safe when maybe for you, it’s not. Even if it was 1 in 10 you’d probably still think the consensus is that it’s safe the 1 saying its not is going against the consensus so must have an agenda. Not what if the rate in the general population is 1 in 1,000,000 but the rate for people with a family history of mental illness is 1 in 3? Both can be true but which is the one that matters to you? Here you’d only be finding the 1 in a million number when you really want to know the one in 3 number.

    Things like this are not about opinions they are about statistics. As someone else said, don’t ask social media for medical matters, science is not about consensus it’s about evidence. The laws of physics don’t change based on how many people believe something.

    Many comments here are the equivalent of saying “I’ve never seen a car crash so they must be made up, it’s just fear mongering by the auto industry to put useless air bags and seat belts in the car to charge you more”.

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      I agree that cannabis users are generally pretty defensive about their habit, but I imagine it comes from about a century of stigma and demonization. When you grow up hearing nothing but disinformation about the thing, you are naturally going to become incredulous of any new claims.

      No excuse, just a possible explanation.

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      I wonder how much of the rejection of real issues with marijuana are the after effects of nearly a century of it being demonized with sources like “we made it up” or “we just really want to jail black people and college students”.

      Then again, we have people out there believing that the entire world was ruled by a single nomadic horde, the world was flooded with mud in the mid 1800s, and 1*1=2 so we might just have a broader issue with people rejecting facts they don’t like.

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    Everyone saying that cannabis induced psychosis is fearmongering or does not exist is unfortunately wrong. Especially for a vulnerable subgroup the risk is definitely there. There are a multitude of studies on the subject, eg this (nature) one. Also check out the cited papers or look for cannabis psychosis in any medical database yourself. Alot of good info out there. The chance it will happen to the average consumer is quite low, after all it is one of the safest drugs out there, if consumed the right way. Thou saying cannabis induced psychosis does not exist is just plain misinformation.

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      An acquaintance of mine got high and went batshit insane till he fell asleep. It was scary. The kid had a lot of family issues. He basically jumped up and started attacking a friend of mine wildly, and wouldn’t stop. There was so much of his hair in the clenched fists of the attacker. It definitely exists, but is really rare that it happens.

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    I was on a week bender with heavy alcohol drinking. My body was at a bad place. I smoked one blunt and that triggered a psychosis. Took me years to work through it. I had two more psychosis’ not related to marijuana use, 1 year and 1 1/2 years later.

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      I appreciate that you include the context of the heavy alcohol use, because most people would just blame cannabis completely.

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    I have zero training in this field but once read a paper on this. I think it essentially said that ganja was ok (?) on its on but for people with “brewing psychosis” it could trigger/enable that breakdown.

    The other problem might be that simply thinking about the possibility of an episode will freak you out - the existential dread would be very draining.

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    I’m not sure on the psychosis part specifically, but it took me many, many years of trying it over and over with different friends in different ways before I finally figured out that it just doesn’t work for me. My body’s endocannabinoid system appears to be in great balance and marijuana of any kind throws it completely out of whack.

    I thought getting the spins and vomiting for hours the very first time I tried it was just because I was already drunk so I only did it after that when I was sober. But the effect was always bad and I never felt good on it, no matter what kind it was or what the social situation was.

    It wasn’t until I tried some really strong stuff with a friend who was a big stoner that I realized I just shouldn’t have it because different people react to it differently and my body fuckin hates it. Every time I would do it, I would have a kind of hangover afterwards that would last for at least a day where I would just be depressed for no fucking reason. Then one time we did some really strong stuff, and I ended up sitting on the bathroom floor for hours with the spins, nearly unable to control my thoughts or communicate. It literally felt like my consciousness was drowning and it was trying to tread water just to utter a single word out of my mouth.

    So, CIS? I have no clue. I’ve never asked a doctor about it, but even if it wasn’t, I wish all the propaganda around weed wasn’t just about how amazing it is and that it’s a miracle drug for everyone, because just like any substance, it truly affects different people in different ways; not all of them good.

    I will happily stick to my alcohol for mind and body altering experiences because my body loves that and only has positive reactions to it.

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    I mean, it’s a thing. You can look it up and find documentation on it. It’s in the DSM-5, the main diagnostic tome for mental health. Here’s an overview in a reputable source. It’s listed as cannabis induced psychosis though.

    It isn’t exactly a super common thing relative to total population, and there’s a good bit of debate about exactly how much of it is purely an affect in people already prone to psychosis or schizophrenia, and how much is causative. However, I’ve never seen any research into whether it’s 100% about the weed, or if it’s related to other things that are in the weed, and/or if it would be set off by anything that tweaked dopamine in a similar way.

    There are other drugs known to trigger psychosis and schizophrenia, and they don’t necessarily work the exact same way. So there’s a good chance that if you don’t have an unusually high chance to end up there, that you won’t, no matter how much you smoke. But there’s just not enough data to be certain.

    What is certain is that it isn’t just scaremongering. It may be used to try and scaremonger, but that’s a different thing.

    The numbers I’ve seen are low enough that you might go decades in ER work and never see it because it isn’t instant. You won’t really know if it’s CIP until a patient history has been taken, other tests run, etc. So the comments talking about ER veterans not having seen it are irrelevant. They wouldn’t be in on the diagnosis. Now, someone in a psych unit might have a useful anecdote about never having seen it during their career. But it’s also not an all day every day thing.

    It’s a relatively infrequent event. Even in a big city, you might see a hundred cases a year that can be definitely diagnosed, and it won’t all be at the same hospital.

    However, if anyone working in an ER says they’ve never seen anyone in for any cannabis related issues, they’re either lying, or didn’t work there long. People get greened out, or get a bad trip, or get stuff that’s laced often enough that you’ll see it if you even do part time in an ER. It won’t be every day, or even every week (or it didn’t used to), but the rate of such occurrence is increasing as legalization spreads access and the willingness to both seek help and be honest. That’s a fact you can look up, you don’t have to trust anyone.

    Cannabis is a plant with around a dozen potent psychoactive components. That’s why people use it. To assume that everyone is going to react the same to them, in varying proportions, at betting varying levels is just stupid. You can have something as mild as aspirin, perfectly controlled during manufacture for potency, and still have the occasional weird response.

    Doesn’t matter how you take it in, you can’t accurately predict your response until you’ve taken it in the first time, and even then you’d need more use to really call it accurate. Then you can still run into weird shit, or laced shit, or shit that’s just way stronger than you’re used to.

    Me? I have unpleasant reactions to the stuff, so I don’t use it. I wish I could because it can do great things for people. If I had a history psychosis or schizophrenia in my family, I wouldn’t even stay around where it’s being smoked or used in a way it could get into my system. Just not worth it, because it can happen, and it is most definitely a real thing, no matter how poorly researched it is currently.

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    Induced is the key word. it can’t flip a switch that isn’t there.

    If you are primed for it drinking could send you over the edge.