• Giado@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Religions are ideas. Ideas dont have rights. Humans have. You are free to criticise ideas & religions. They dont have rights. Criticising a religion is not bigotry.

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      5 days ago

      we can definitely manage to not dehumanize other people just because they have different religions and customs. Appealing to tribalism is a bullshit excuse.

      Why was your reaction to that to defend “criticising religion”? If this is mixed together for you, then it seems your idea of “criticising religion” indeed contains bigotry and can serve to dehumanize people.

      I am not saying this to attack you. I hope it can give you some reflection. Religion is one of the mayor aspects chosen to persecute people on and we have seen anti-religious hate propaganda, in particular against Muslims running through western societies nonstop for the past decades. This kind of bigotry is incredibly subversive and very difficult to overcome. Even more so, if you aren’t conscious of it.

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      4 days ago

      Treating people badly simply for holding a religious belief, so long ad those beliefs do not directly infringe on others (paradox of tolerance blah blah), is bigotry. Using mental gymnastic to say that the people themselves are not being treated poorly is disingenuous.

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        Yes of course, but Islamic beliefs directly infringe on others.

        At the same time, more compassion is needed in dealing with people who have been drawn into deceptive and even dangerous religious thinking (I’m not just referring to Islam). Only then will they be able to leave the cult.

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          4 days ago

          Islamic/religious beliefs don’t necessarily infringe on others. I’m not religious. But religion is more complicated than what you’re portraying.