• thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    It’s almost as if neither of the parties that will win through FPTP (first past the post) care about the people, and care more for satisfying the rich.

    Due to FPTP, I can only vote labour as for my views they’re the slightly lesser of two terrible parties.

    At the same time, neither of the parties that benefit from FPTP will think about changing it and even if they did most of the population would fall for the propaganda machine anyway (see Brexit and decades of awful Tory government / the nonsense that the right are spewing out but gaining popularity)

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      22 hours ago

      If Labour wants to stay in power for the next election, they sure as hell better bring about proportional representation, because with the rise of the everything right now, this might be it for them

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      I’m telling you, that kind of level of governmental reform is only possible by some great tumultuous event, like, for example, the houses of parliament burning completely to the ground.

      It wouldn’t take much, the place is a tinderbox. For arguments sake, if a crowd thousands strong surrounded the place and were all throwing fireworks at it, they couldn’t arrest everyone.

      There are better ways, but the points still stand.

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    That’s the world we’re living in now. We can barely get governments to consider stopping doing big stupid things like daylight savings time, let alone set any grand expensive projects in motion.

    It’s horrible. None of the great projects governents have set up in the past like railway systems or sewers would be made in today’s political climate.

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      1 day ago

      Just as a correction. Railways was set up as a privrate enterprise then nationalised. But unlike most of the rest the rail system was fairly national before gov involvement.

      Sewers sorta. They were started as city states long before democracy was a thing iE most cities had basic systems in feudal times. But roll out to rural villages etc was def modern gov.

      Electrical grid much the same but started in the 1900s. Privrate city systems some run by local gov some entirly privrate. Standardisation and national unification was def gov in 1938.

      Same with the gas grid. A mix of privrate and city run town gas systems from mid 1800s linked and nationalised in 1949. (PS worked for British gas during the privatisation process)

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      big stupid things like daylight savings time,

      In part because the population dose not agree on doing so.

      Its been discussed in parliment several times over the decades. Each time the MPs realise voting to end it is voting for school children walking home in the dark through most of winter. So reject it.

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        That makes no sense. In Summer sunset is later than 8pm - how is removing BST going to wind that all the way back to 3pm?

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          15 hours ago

          You seems to fail to see how days work. Winter is much shorter days due to the way the earth is tipped. This has a much more drematic effect in other parts of the nation. Mainly north.

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          Clocks go back in winter. Where parts of the UK with the shortest days get dark in the early pm. So we make bst 4pm hit at 3pm In winter ensuring children are home before dark… As the days get longer in summer we set it forward again to stop us haveing sunlight at 11pm in the part ofvthe UK with the longest days.

          Remember before the railways standardised UK time in the 1800. Different cities set clocks to match their own midday. When the UK standardised to allow tail times to be managed. The whole nation using the same clock/time created odd issues with day time at the extreams.

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        1 day ago

        ok. Can you imagine any government in the g20 doing something on the scale of implementing daylight savings today?

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          Nope def not. I was not disagreeing with your point. Just the stupidity of daylight savings. As an old fart I’ve watched the subject come up every time. Folks rapidly realise it ain’t so stupid when they realise the real reason we still do it.

          Its just one of those things that makes me grin. Farmers claim cities need it urbanites think its for farmers. Yet it has always been about their kids not walking home at 3pm in the dark. Then a decade or so later the MPs forget about it and have another debate.

          We have all grown so used to it we only remember the 2 annoying days a year .