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Over the years, we’ve seen a good number of interfaces used for computer monitors, TVs, LCD panels and other all-things-display purposes. We’ve lived through VGA and the large variety of analog interfaces that preceded it, then DVI, HDMI, and at some point, we’ve started getting devices with DisplayPort support. So you might think it’s more of the same. However, I’d like to tell you that you probably should pay more attention to DisplayPort – it’s an interface powerful in a way that we haven’t seen before.
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Wow, learned quite a bit from that
I just wish display port hasn’t been “the up and coming new, better standard” for nearly 20 years.
I remember being a teenager researching my first build and thinking ‘I’d better make sure I get a display port compatible screen, or I won’t be able to use it with a GPU in 5 years!’
It’s kinda funny cause my work computer had vga and displayport and not hdmi. Nice to learn why the adapters are the way they are
The computer I use as a home server now is like that, it’s an HP Z600 from 2006! Blew my mind last time I had to move it and I couldn’t find the power cord to my old VGA monitor.
Some of the screens at my work place, that are less than 5 years old, lack displayport
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Woah what’s with the hostility
If you don’t know, you should SHUT THE FUCK UP. ;)
Honestly, I have no idea why they said that.
if displayport isn’t backed by home media interests then why did they implement hdcp?
probably to support devices that only work with it enabled
Does anyone know of some affordable 4K@120Hz TVs that ship with DisplayPort interfaces, or any long fiber optic DisplayPort cables supporting the same resolution frame rate and bit depth as the HDMI 2.1 fiber optic cables on the market? That’s one thing that’s been holding me back from DisplayPort adoption.
It’s difficult to have. The members of HDMI Forum are almost the TV manufacturers and the members of VESA (the maintainer of DisplayPort) are PC and GPU munafacturers. So TV almost uses HDMI and monitor almost uses DisplayPort.
This kind of splintering is really unfortunate. Would be nice to have a universal AV interface for consumer hardware. I’d also like to see one that supports bi-directional communication, like for forwarding human interfaces connected to TVs, like wireless game controllers, or programmatic control over internal settings like audio volume, brightness, contrast, motion smoothing, etc. I suppose displayport over thunderbolt plus embedded USB hubs in computer monitors gets close, but the display settings controllers usually require proprietary drivers and are vendor specific.
I know both HDMI and Displayport enable remote control for basic features like turning the device on or off from sleep, but very few PCs or GPUs ship with HDMI-CEC. I’ve only seen a few mini PCS or single board computers ship with that.
I suppose displayport over thunderbolt plus embedded USB hubs in computer monitors gets close, but the display settings controllers usually require proprietary drivers and are vendor specific.
DisplayPort have DDC to control display settings. But I don’t know how much settings was standardized and implemented by vendor. But at least, the backlight was implement by most vendors, many users use it.
Fuck displayport! it’s open source or nothing.
You want stupid apple bullshit? Because this is how you get stupid apple bullshit.
New HDMI is fine. Again, fuck displayport.
open source or nothing
New HDMI is fine
Are you a troll or just stupid? (And I ask that sincerely). HDMI is a proprietary licensed specification.
DisplayPort is royalty free and has a larger consortium backing the implementation.
It’s not quite fully open though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort
VESA, the creators of the DisplayPort standard, state that the standard is royalty-free to implement. […]
While VESA does not charge any per-device royalty fees, VESA requires membership for access to said standards.[70] The minimum cost is presently $5,000 (or $10,000 depending on Annual Corporate Sales Revenue) annually.[71]
That doesn’t change how it’s, hm, questionable to prefer HDMI on the basis of “open source or nothing” compared to DisplayPort, but still.
How is VESA supposed to fund their work? Volunteers? Unpaid Interns?
I’m not judging whether it’s good or bad, I’m saying that despite their weird attitude, the root level comment is right that the design is not “open source” because the design is not freely accessible despite being royalty free for paying members to implement and use.
The same argument you’re presenting could be used for commercial open source enterprise though, and that’s not completely impossible to do via support fees and such.
What ever DisplayPort do, HDMI do more badly. HDMI also requires Annual Fee to get document now (since 2021, before that the document was public available). And this is not the worst thing, the worst thing is the HDMI forum disallow anyone open source a driver which support HDMI 2.1 or higher.
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1417#note_2303163
Now show me on the doll where the display port touched you…
Since nobody else is bothering to ask and just downvoting, I’m genuinely curious. Why fuck displayport and love hdmi?
