Yeah no. Paul is quite clear that it was to remove Original Sin from the world and usher in the end. According to Mark it is for the general sins of the world (ransom) and to provide humans direct access to skydaddy. Matthew adds to it the New Covenant. To Luke it was mostly about forgiveness, instead of ransom. To John it was a demonstration of love and future Kingdom of Skydaddy.
Ransom and forgiveness aren’t the same thing. If you get someone to pay me money that you owe me that is ransom. If I say forget about it that is forgiveness.
The first 3 generations of Christian thought was dealing with the given. The given was that their supposed Messiah died. The question was why.
Yeah but Paul never met the historical Jesus. He was a convert and if there’s anything I learned from going to church the converts are the most zealous, also preaching to Jews instead of Gentiles like the Gospels.
I didn’t say anything about the reasons?
I just said that “you made god kill himself” is factually wrong when talking about the bible.
You answered a different question?
Yeah no. Paul is quite clear that it was to remove Original Sin from the world and usher in the end. According to Mark it is for the general sins of the world (ransom) and to provide humans direct access to skydaddy. Matthew adds to it the New Covenant. To Luke it was mostly about forgiveness, instead of ransom. To John it was a demonstration of love and future Kingdom of Skydaddy.
Ransom and forgiveness aren’t the same thing. If you get someone to pay me money that you owe me that is ransom. If I say forget about it that is forgiveness.
The first 3 generations of Christian thought was dealing with the given. The given was that their supposed Messiah died. The question was why.
Yeah but Paul never met the historical Jesus. He was a convert and if there’s anything I learned from going to church the converts are the most zealous, also preaching to Jews instead of Gentiles like the Gospels.
Seen the same thing. A convert is something else. Most of us were only mildly infected, a convert has their life sucked out of them.
As for Paul the more I study his letters the more I feel bad for the guy. That dehydration delusion broke him. Go back in time and give him Prozac.
I didn’t say anything about the reasons? I just said that “you made god kill himself” is factually wrong when talking about the bible. You answered a different question?
Right except the Gospels show Jesus going to his own death willingly, especially in Luke.
even that is not “killing himself”. that is accepting the sentence dealt upon him.
He put himself in that situation knowing he was going to die. That’s killing yourself.
You really are reaching here. Want to just be “right”?
Am I? I might be.