• deHaga@feddit.uk
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    5 days ago

    No chance, fleet buyers run the market, company vehicles are going to PHEV and EVs now, they are so much cheaper to run. Govt is losing fuel duty.

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      5 days ago

      I guess we will see, but with the 3p per mile the average EV costs 2x as much per mile to fast charge on the public network as petrol.

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          5 days ago

          Great let’s hope your energy provider continues to offer this tariff. People who don’t have a driveway or garage (basically poorer people) have to pay nearly 10x that, or just 7x that if they have 10 hours to waste at a slow charger.

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              4 days ago

              From what I remember the lamp post chargers are still going to be charged at slow rates so 50-60p/kWh. I just read Octopus is putting a cap of 6 hours on their liver EV charging rate… I wonder when the next change will be.

              I’m predicting these overnight/off peak tariffs will continue to trend towards the standard rate as consumers have no choice but to pay it.

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                4 days ago

                Doubt it. With the amount of renewables coming on line they’ll be paying people to store it not charging more. We already have negative prices in the wholesale market

                Octopus are the best. Over the summer they give free electric during windy days

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                  4 days ago

                  They put the 3p per mile on EV, because they weren’t contributing to the infrastructure, if people are getting paid to use electricity they also won’t be contributing to the infrastructure. Hinckley point C, transmission network, oil and gas subsidies all need to be paid for. Doesn’t matter how great Octopus may be, they’re not going to lose money and the government is not going to accept a loss in tax revenues.

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        5 days ago

        Fast charge is an in case you need it option, it’s more expensive than regular charging.

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          5 days ago

          Are you suggesting that the solution is to use slow public chargers? Because the average EV needs to stay on a 7kWh charger for 10 hours, so you need to live really close to one or have sleeping bag in the back seat. Even then they are 18p per mile so 5p more than petrol.

          Not everyone has a driveway or garage they can use to charge from home, this policy creates a system where the wealthy can drive for very little, and the poor have to pay a lot more.