In b4 someone calls me a tankie

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    2 days ago

    Those structures can still exist without term limits. The power can lay in the hands of the people who put that person into power. The same people who went “this guy’s good at his job we should have him leading things” are the exact same people who can go “hang on this guy is no longer doing a good job leading things, let’s replace him”.

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      1 day ago

      You’re seriously arguing that cronyism is a self-correcting system?

      Congratulations that’s… the worst take I’ve ever seen.

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        You’re seriously arguing that *cronyism is a self-correcting system?

        Could you please explain to me how you managed to get that from what I said?

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          In a ideal situation this sort of failsafe wouldn’t be needed - but your line is “The power can lay in the hands of the people who put that person into power”. What if, just suppose, the people putting that person into power aren’t the proletariat? A totally wild hypothetical here I know, when would something like THAT ever happen. But those people, by your hypothetical would then be the ones with the power to go “hang on this guy is no longer doing a good job leading things, let’s replace him”.

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            So when I say term limits aren’t necessary if the people have the power and therefore the same power putting someone into a role is the same power that can remove them, your response is “but what if people don’t have power”. If they don’t have power then they don’t have power. You didn’t address what I said.

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              What? But… you didn’t say that. That’s not what you said at all. That’s why I didn’t address it, because you didn’t say it. I addressed what you said.

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                19 hours ago

                Yes it is.

                Those structures can still exist without term limits. The power can lay in the hands of the people who put that person into power. The same people who went “this guy’s good at his job we should have him leading things” are the exact same people who can go “hang on this guy is no longer doing a good job leading things, let’s replace him”.

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                  18 hours ago

                  Yes what is? Repeating the same comment doesn’t make it suddenly say something different, and it still doesn’t address the part where it’s a safeguard for a non-ideal situation.

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                    15 hours ago

                    Even countries that have term limits don’t give all the power to whoever is in charge. If they did then that person could just declare there being no more term limits and themselves the god emperor or whatever to start abusing their power. It’s not like the thought to abuse power never crosses someone’s mind until after they’ve been in charge for 6 years so if we replace them before that happens we prevent people abusing power. They can’t do that because they can’t. There are already structures in place that prevent abusing power. Things like distributing power across multiple people and only being in charge of what’s necessary. Things like a constitution, things like a senate, having a process for laws to be reviewed and signed off before they can be put into effect.