I’m very disappointed in poem_for_your_sprog for almost understanding this point, and then immediately making the same mistake she was calling out

‘I have to sort my books!’ she cried,
With self-indulgent glee;
With senseless, narcissistic pride:
‘I’m just so OCD!’
‘How random, guys!’ I smiled and said,
Then left without a peep -
And washed my hands until they bled,
And cried myself to sleep.

  • Best_Jeanist@discuss.onlineOPEnglish
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    2 days ago

    That’s a bold claim to make, when I’ve explained the full myth and you haven’t. Now, if you were to cite any particular example and build an argument from it, then I would take your objection in good faith and respond in kind. However, if I were to pick apart and examine each of those four examples, why that would waste perhaps an hour of my time, all in response to three words of yours. That would be holding myself to a hundred times the standard of evidence you’ve provided. And if you were to demand I do that before you believe me, well the word for that is sealioning. Which is why I have concluded your argument is not, at this moment, in good faith.

    • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      Those versions support my interpretation too.

      One of the greatest arguments ever constructed. Truly.

      • Best_Jeanist@discuss.onlineOPEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        Fine, I’ll analyse ONE of the alternatives to Conon you cited: Ovid.

        Some one, therefore, who had been despised by him, lifting up his hands towards heaven, said, “Thus, though he should love, let him not enjoy what he loves!” Rhamnusia assented to a prayer so reasonable.

        There we are. Narcissus rejected someone and they prayed to the gods for revenge, and outlined very clear parameters for the curse they wanted Narcissus to suffer. They wanted him to be made to love and not have what he loves. So Rhamnusia made him fall in love with his reflection.

        Now get off your lazy ass and do some research if you want to argue with me.

          • Best_Jeanist@discuss.onlineOPEnglish
            11·
            2 days ago

            So you don’t think a goddess agreeing to punish a guy for not wanting any fucc is aphobic?

            Here’s some more context: Narcissus was the son of Liriope, a nymph. Nymphs do not typically have any sexual interest. Liriope only got pregnant because she was raped by Cephisus. Narcissus inherited his mother’s beauty, and it seems clear from his actions, her asexuality.

            Many a youth, and many a damsel, courted him; but there was so stubborn a pride in his youthful beauty, that no youths, no damsels made any impression on him.

            And here we have Ovid attributing asexual behaviour to pride, and not to just being ace.