• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Reagan was an actor, and he was instrumental in the process of fucking up our society to the degree that it is now. He spearheaded deregulation. One of the direct outcomes of that is the rampant increase of wealth inequality, as well as the now-“normal” boom/bust economic economic cycle that started with Black Monday in 1987 and has been getting markedly worse with each crash.

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      1 year ago

      That was not because he was an actor. That was because Reagan was stupid enough to listen to the wrong people.

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        1 year ago

        OP’s point is that there is a correlation between celebrity presidents and terrible decisions affecting the nation.

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          The sample size is 2, and both of them were terrible people before they got into politics.

          Reagan was an authoritarian bootlicker who helped out communists as the President of SAG, he was already a fascist and was voted in because he was a fascist that was good at public speaking.

          Not even gonna get into how shitty of a human being Trump was before being president, except to point out he was the biggest voice accusing Obama of faking his birth certificate.

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      I think the point is that Schwarzenegger, unlike Reagan, has political experience. He has proven himself not to be as much as a puppet as Reagan was, at least.

      That said, good thing he can’t run.

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          All I really remember from The Governators time was how many parks got built.

          It was actually kind of ridiculous because the signs went up into all kinds of places I had been using for hiking for years, dirt lots or unmanaged areas that connected to wilderness. Then bam, sign goes up with a big green ✅ and Swartzennegers name. No park at first just the signs. And a shit ton of them. Like a ridiculous number. It took time from there but they were all eventually turned into parks and green spaces.

          He gets a lot of shit because he is an over the top character, but California has done far worse. Newsom is worse. Davis did less.

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            I actually think he’d do a great job. I just don’t think it’s likely to happen due to the constitutional requirements, which would never be changed in a normal political environment, much less in this one.

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              I mean he was kinda milquetoast, but also, California is like, fucking impossible to manage. I don’t think people realize how strange and departed interests are in Sacramento. It’s a clusterfuck because California is so variable in its territory, people, and ideologies.

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                I’ve appreciated his efforts to use his platform to try to be a voice of reason to other Republicans in recent years. He’s flawed, but he’s a legit role model with a head on his shoulders.

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                  Yeah, I’ve never really understood his fascination with Repubs. He doesn’t carry their idealogy. It’s kinda weird. He’s like a baby swan who the first politician he saw was a Republican and so he’s a Republican. He even says as much in some interview.

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      I don’t think you understand economics. The economy naturally booms and crashes since the dawn of time.

      The key is to slow down the boom and speed up the crash so we don’t end up with the economy totally crashing

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        I am familiar with Keynesian economics. I am not suggesting that regulations fully prevent crashes, either then or now.

        What I am saying is that removing the guardrails so you can cut corners even more aggressively in the interest of profit works great until you crash in a way that the guardrails would have made the crash suck a lot less.

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          I’m not familiar with “Keynesian economics”. However I do think cutting corners is something that is common with many industries. It isn’t because of profit but is more related to the desire not to go out of business. Competition is normally a good thing as it drives down prices while increasing options for customers. The fix to this is to bad behavior with fines or outright bans.

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            lmao you fucking muppet it’s the foundational ideology to what you’re trying to express. The fact that you freely admitted that you haven’t heard of it is an implicit admission of complete ignorance on the topic you’re attempting to push. Kindly cease attempting to misinform people.

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              I have never heard of “Keynesian economics” until today and I haven’t seem any paper, journals or other such media to back your claims. I’m not a professional economist but it seems like you are just following someone or something blindly.

              So before you get mad you should look to draw your own conclusions and be familiar with what you are arguing. I my intention wasn’t to provoke you. Lemmy is full people stating options and half truths as absolute facts. I’m not guilt free but at least I’m willing to admit my arrogance. Try not to be a gate keeper

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                I don’t think you understand economics

                And then later

                Try not to be a gatekeeper

                Lol no. I’m not gonna let you just pretend you came out of the gates with a diplomatic tone.

                You’re arguing in bad faith. I called you on it, and your response indicates you don’t know what you’re talking about.