People who don’t want Russia to acquire resources and think they should be stopped from getting them by force are not pro-Russia. Graham ALSO wants them to fight, you are in complete agreement with him. Are you also a Ruzzian stooge?
Maybe they wouldn’t be unprepared if he would pack it in and go back to ruzzia. Just wait for the peace conference to happen, then he’ll really have egg on his face when they all agree that he has lost and has to go back to his part of the map.
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Gotta love that rules based international order.
Well I only speak for myself but I don’t care for Putin personally. I think it’s a shame he’s the head of state, I really wish he wasn’t the favored successor of the guy the US helped install at the head of the new state after the USSR started to fold. That entire era was a massive human rights tragedy, I think we agree.
I think what is irritating to a lot of people who aren’t pro-Ukraine is that the entire world knew there was a fascism problem before the war. Now we’re expected to support them like they’re noble underdogs, because the government wants to do things western governments approve of.
I don’t think it’s good to round up young men and force them to die in a war they don’t want to participate in. I have no control over Putin but a bunch of my labor value is being used, against my will, to turn a bunch of people into corpses.
I think one thing that’s getting lost in the discussion here is you keep talking about governments as if they are people. Ostensibly liberal states exist to protect human beings and their rights. At the point where “you” have to let “your” values slide in order to deal with “your” existential crisis we are talking about the governent as if it has feelings and its own aspirations that deserve to be treated with the same seriousness we theoretically want to apply to human welfare.
I feel very bad for Ukrainians, to be clear, I think they’ve been mistreated by the US who used them to try and get one over on an adversary in the knowledge that other people will be the ones dying if it goes poorly. That’s certainly very bad.
However you feel about the justice of the invasion, though, we’ve reached the point where even people who support the war and want Ukraine to win are defining winning as a negotiated settlement where they give up territory. If NATO is not willing to fight Russia directly (clearly they aren’t) and continuing the aid to the conflict is not even providing a reasonable way for Ukraine to retain its territory and even cheerleaders who are on the side of Ukraine’s government believe they will have to negotiate a settlement then WHY ARE WE NOT PUSHING THAT? More Ukrainians are being expected to die, against their will as you freely acknowledge, for no long term strategic purpose.
The death and destruction from this war is a human tragedy. It will be more tragic if it is prolonged for years only to end in the same way it could have within months.
Three years ago they were all also admitting that, we’ve just decided that this particular war fell out of the coconut tree.
Just in time for Blinken to go ask the Chinese to be nice and cooperative with us!
The only leaving he should be doing is LEAVING UKRAINE amirite?
Are you still of the opinion that Russia is slowly losing its position and is incapable of moving forward?
I’m curious, do you still feel this way?
Wait your position is that landlords are renting out places in major US cities at a lower cost than the mortgage? Are they billionaire philanthropists?
My favorite Israeli history tidbit is how their terror cells assassinated one of the guys trying to negotiate a peaceful way out of the violence creating the state of Israel caused because they were (wrongly, it turns out) afraid that the official government would try to take a peaceful solution to the conflict which might have jeopardized the creation of the ethnostate.
Bernadotte had previously gained international renown for negotiating the release of thousands of Nazi concentration camp prisoners including hundreds of interred Jewish people.
Joe is infuriating with these PR moves, it’s frustrating that they work so well on people who only digest headlines.
“It said an “immediate and sustained ceasefire” was “imperative” adding that “towards that end” unequivocal support should be given to the hostage negotiations.”
Read the danged article folks, it’s just saying “a ceasefire would be good, they need to agree to our hostage deal to do that.” They’re not calling for a ceasefire unequivocally, it’s a continuation of the Biden position from a new venue in the hope that it will, aesthetically, look like they’re doing something.
At least until we see the resolution we should be careful about just granting Joe credit foe this.
Edit: That is the resolution, it’s literally just the Biden-Israel line of “agree to our deal and we’ll stop for 6 weeks” which they are peddling as if that amounts to a durable ceasefire.
Even the people pushing this law acknowledge that the threat is purely theoretical, no one is advancing any serious argument that data has been or will be shared or leaked or anything of the sort. It’s just xenophobia, if they wanted to protect American citizens’ data they would do something about the way they allow tech companies to just take your data and turn around and sell it to whoever wants it.
Bonus points because US government officials can punt a great bargain basement blowout sale to former US officials by forcing the sale of a company using said xenophobia.
Real kkkracker hours on lemmy today huh.
Well how about this tankies:
Putin can have a peace deal when his army packs up and returns to ruZZia and lets the adults in Switzerland decide what peace is gonna be without including one of the belligerents in the conflict they’re resolving.
I poked into r/politics to see what was up and there’s a bunch of libs wondering how this old guy snuck in and became the nominee somehow, and how whoever did that should be fired. It’s really weird to see the about face, I thought he was a phenomenal candidate with a sterling record last week.