“Use google sheets” is an interesting solution in the “selfhosted” community.

This is like arguing with someone on the phoronix forums and I’m genuinely disappointed. This isn’t basic functionality, it’s a complicated design choice and just going: “do it the same way everyone else does lmao it’s not that hard” while ignoring all the problems this has caused over the years is incredibly disingenuous. I get it, you just want Windows, or MacOS or whatever traditional, windows inspired never-changing desktop UI you’re used to. You don’t care about things like different screen shapes, scrollable compositors or enabling new window management strategies. Ironically, most people can already have that with current Wayland compositors. It works fine for the vast majority of users. What’s so “ivory tower” and “not real world usage” about that? I’m using it. I have been since before it was made default in Fedora, because it solved my screen tearing issues immediately. I’m using it at work and at home. It’s fine. Yes there are missing features. No, it’s not “basic functionality” or complete deal breakers for everyone but a tiny subset of users. That obviously doesn’t stop some people from blowing it out of proportion apparently.

Fine, pivot to complaining about the pace of development instead. I’m sure everyone who has been successfully using Wayland for years is going to see your vague hints of what’s wrong with it and the Wayland devs will go back to working on X.

I should know better than to engage with someone willing to throw around meaningless buzzwords like ivory tower design.

Yes, window management systems that are as old as X have that escape hatch of allowing positioning by global coordinates. It’s pretty much impossible to take that ability away from applications when it inevitably becomes an issue.

“You don’t want that - I know you don’t”

You can try to frame this as pandering, condescending, mean or the devs having a personal vendetta against your workflow all you want, there are tradeoffs with such fundamental design decisions which have been deliberated over a lot. You either make global window position the sole responsibility of the compositor or you expose control to applications and get an unmanageable mess, which you can’t fix.

Afaik, there are plans to implement additional client hints which applications can use to indicate desired window positioning or even manage relative position of multiple windows, but they don’t involve direct access to the global coordinates. This is mainly a concern for complex multi-window legacy applications which are currently stuck on xwayland. See this for example: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/264

Do you have an issue that actually requires this or do you just have an issue with how a certain compositor handles window placement?

You mean the way X handled window positioning? Yeah, good riddance. That was always a bad way to handle things and has been a major pain in the ass for window managers that tried to do anything out of the ordinary. Removing that was a deliberate choice. I’m quite happy to trade that anti-feature for HDR, useful VRR support and no tearing, ever.

No. The people who thanklessly maintained X for years have made their choice. If you want to take up that slack, go ahead. The codebase sucks and X has many missing features, some of which Wayland supports or at least can feasibly implement at some point before the heat death of the universe. Every single person that says: “if we put all that effort into X instead we would be better off” has no idea what they are talking about and has clearly never spoken to a developer who actually worked on X.

can’t reproduce the functionality we had in the '90s

Good. Fuck the ancient shit that has been collected over the years. There are still missing features that Wayland compositors need at some point and there are things that used to be easier with X, but if you can’t actually name anything then I’ll just assume you’re being contrarian.

Them being purchased is news to me. I’m pretty sure they just announced that the current model wasn’t sustainable due to decreased traffic from Google and getting their results scraped for AI training.

Good point. Being even more condescending will unite us and encourage cooperation!

Now is not the time to be attacking each other

Fair point. How are we going to pull ourselves together and rise up against the ones causing actual societal damage?

The anti AI slop crowd needs to shut the fuck up

Ah, yeah that’ll help. Call everyone sheep and make them sound stupid while you’re at it.

hyprland plays a big role here, so this would be a good thing for that project. out of everything that has been going on lately, this is one of the more interesting ones.

Hyprland and their discord server full of bigots can suck my left nut. There must not be much going on lately if yet another tiling compositor is that interesting.

arch is also involved, which is a great project too, and it would benefit from this as well.

It’s literally someones preconfigured Arch rice. Arch has been around for years before the tech oligarchs were even aware that the wider linux community existed. You’re very trusting that this money, which has been given to omarchy primarily because of their AI agent support, will end up funding any of the actually useful software behind it. I’m guessing most of it goes to marketing with some amount set aside to buy a mail-order bride for the hyprland dev or whatever the fuck that dipshit was talking about.

the other stuff you mentioned doesn’t trigger me, don’t worry.

Yeah, don’t worry I got that fascist sympathizer vibe after deciphering some of your other comments.

Considering the rest of their comment history I’m starting to lean more towards “incredibly out of touch”.

As opposed to giving it to an Arch install script and dotfile collection promoted by a fascist and used by people with shit taste? Please tell me this is really poor bait.

The Raspberry Pi 5 doesn’t have h264 hardware decoding blocks anymore afaik. But it’s fast enough to do better and faster software decoding anyway from what I’ve heard.

I see, then the website is probably just very out of date. The main repo hasn’t seen a release in a while either, so it might still be the latest available version.

The github page they link has been archived over a month ago, the last release is from november last year and I don’t think much development happened in the meantime. Their website doesn’t scream up-to-date either.

Did I miss something?

It’s been a long time but I remember it tasting distinctly sour, to the point where it’s not useful as a general mayonnaise replacement (no matte what some people say).

Yes, but not as much as you need to get a taste approaching miracle whip.

Have you tried adding a little bit of vinegar and maybe sugar to regular mayonnaise? I find that makes for a really unhealthy salad dressing that’s similar in taste to miracle whip.

It sounds like most of the price is going towards the screen. Apparently sourcing e-ink screens isn’t trivial.

I think they’re expecting to take until the end of the year to work through their current reservation list (this might include the waiting list at the time but I’m not sure). I wouldn’t hold my breath unless you’re willing to pay one of the few scalpers on eBay.

If you’re going with a small form factor DIY or some equivalent pre-built PC alternative, I strongly urge you to get an AMD GPU to get a good experience with Steam OS, Bazzite or some other Linux gaming distro.

Liberated systemd is a meme for idiots. I’d be surprised if the fork is even kept up to date by the AI researcher who initially created it, let alone being easily installable on mainstream distros.