@poVoq@slrpnk.net

Ohhhh ok it’s less bad than i thought! Thank you for the clarification

Just to be clear:

basically, until now, instance ban was not an actual instance ban but “ban from the communities that person had in cache from my instance”?

So if, for example, a new community was made, the person could just write there like not instance banned?

for reddit it happens that when an item reaches the ‘‘top month’’ status, it gets added to the rss

It’s acceptable for some communities, not for others…

To be fair I also don’t like the fact that “private” usually means that the server admins can still read what’s inside. I get it for images but for text…

MLS on activitypub is very much needed

The weakest link is the social element.

From one sysadmin to watch, now there would be at least 2. It’s better to not give a false sense of security, so I understand why one would not federate them at all.

Maybe “gated” communities would be better rather than private in the case you refer to

That’s not happening to me… I’ve installed it from brew and there is no need for me to do anything weird except the occasional “this app was downloaded from internet so you allow it” when updating from brew (stuff that gets updated natively doesn’t even ask this)

I think people are retreating more and more into chat groups. Those people are not on reddit anymore, they are probably in discord related to certain products hobbies etc.

I really wonder how long until we will start seeing the effects of not having more updated general knowledge in the public web, but oh well 🤷

On a side note, after all, the web always had a bias and a lot of fields never had easily available public discussions…

I would rework the other stuff, like the whole branding because all that hacker green doesn’t help in feeling the communities. And the images for the same reason… Also there are some features that are worthless listing like “you can have an avatar”

Also the censorship thing…

Let’s say that the homepage kinda reflects the state of lemmy people as a group right now and it’s not so nice imo

Focussing on being a clean forum with nested answers and human curated algorithm and idk, just pointing some low hanging fruits

On a side note I wonder if having the page as onboarding for users instead of explaining the software is the right target. Ideally it should be communities trying to outreach to have people on their servers, not the software asking to join people who use the software (?)

But I digress.

On a marketing level point of view, while we are clearly the small fish, it’s not bad to leverage being enemies of Reddit. Like in the past we’ve seen much more Apple vs Microsoft while now they ignore each other.

“Reddit if was not owned by venture capitalists who keep ruining your life” lol (too long)

Anyway, is there any kind of data to know if people actually join lemmy by joinlemmy site?

A community poll for Lemmy users would be good.

Mastodon also got the rss for user’s media, useful to follow artists

As for Reddit, go away from the main subs

unluckily niches are not yet developed enough but still better than nothing and you can help with posting

Not having admins spamming would already solve half of that issue lol

To use bonfire, to be even more local (me and the other admin actually live in the same province) and because apparently my social circles are too attached to telegram to post in the open web questions that they can make in our shared groups

Oh and because the main community that should have moved changed idea, so no more being the focal point for political organization in the Italian landscape

Also there is a bug in my ear that keeps repeating that we should just embrace this dark forest internet moment and hide in chat groups like everyone else

AniSocial got the same issues as EuropePub: ton of noise, 0 purposes and discussion.

Even just having the thread to discuss latest one piece chapter would be enough

I made a telegram group to have similar results but it’s still a bit annoying that no one in the open social world wants to fight the trend of hiding into chat groups e-e

yep, we have tons of news posting but few discussion i agree

Adding servers is not going to help the signup issue, it will just make it worse

Other similar servers yes, more themed ones i don’t think so…

what marketing?? there is none for the fediverse

Ye that’s a problem. Marketing as in market of mental space not as in ‘‘buy this one’’

someone jumped the gun on community creation

Yep, exactly why i feel hesitant partecipating in some subs :o

You are right that problably there is not enough interest, but not that someone shouldn’t try anyway u.u

Kinda agree but I’m not so sure about the egg or the chicken first

Belonging is very important and there is clearly a dominant techie culture in generalistic instances right now

slrpnk is a themed instance 😃 (also lemmini, even tho we may close it soon and then make a very local one)

I made the list for “hey look there are opportunities if you want the threadiverse to shine”

No pressure

No but forums work (or don’t if not shared enough) because they have a purpose

With too many generalistic instances you get:

• login paralysis not knowing where to sign up
• bad “””marketing””” because it’s harder to differentiate
• kinda flat culture? I mean every generalistic instance right now it’s mostly techies…
• centralization
• lack of curation because no sense of ownership and belonging

I agree with some of the points of the original thread:

• having Twitter clone or Instagram clone but decentralized kinda sucks no matter how you put it and it’s probably not mass sustainable

On the other hand… Lemmy is just a forum that can connect to other forums. You don’t find cool subreddits searching for them, the good ones are the ones recommended by other people, usually not by search. The fediverse actually suffers from having a big user base that wants Reddit/twitter/insta but decentralized instead of having small forums/microblogs connected to each other. Also the reason why you see me often advocating for less “generalized instances” and wanting more vertical focused ones. This is easily possible with lemmy dividing by topic and with mastodon dividing by localization.

If you want the fedi to thrive, build lemmy instances focused on being a stand alone forum first and mastodon ones focused on being local first (same for mobilizon)

Ye I was not finding it but it’s probably because maybe without federation the setting doesn’t pop up :)