Growing the population is just kicking the can down the road because you can’t grow it forever anyway… We already have a over strained biosphere; pollution, resource depletion, climate change, accelerated species extinction etc
I completely agree. This is all about people not enjoying life because they work too much. Regulate the problem as an externality and this problem would go away. But government leaders in Japan would never have the guts to radically regulate the problem, such as requiring double the pay for overtime after 28 hours of work per person in a week (and this would need to be per person, not per job, to avoid people then just doubling up on jobs to get more hours; the externality could only be brought under control by having it apply to everyone with no way to circumvent it).
If Japan capped working at 28 hours a week and anything after that required double the pay (for overtime), this problem would taken care of.
Working all the time makes people miserable. It’s an externality that impacts society in all sorts of horrible ways. It would be proper for the government to institute a rule like this.
It would definitely lower GDP of Japan and cause some economic issues, but the alternative (living in a world where people are so miserable that they don’t fall in love as much and want to reproduce) is worse for their economy.
Will they do this? No, because it would require thinking outside of the box too much and would be seen as too extreme.
Literally nothing in it is AI. It’s not even an AI writing style. Where are the dashes? Where is the quirky rhetoric like “It’s not a (one thing), it’s a (other thing).” AI has a style, it’s not this. Just because I’m verbose doesn’t mean I’m an AI.
Covid and the pandemic fundamentally changed how people interact and relate
I know this is strange, but pre-covid, people grew up in a world in which dating and to some extent working required a social life. People met at bars, through friends, at parties, doing common activities. Then dating Apps and hookup Apps came along, but bars still existed, social scenes still existed, people still had parties.
Work also had to be a physical social thing: you needed to show up, there was a more social aspect to interacting with people, and people were more likely to socialize outside of work. Some remote work happened, but not a lot.
Then covid happened. All of work changed so that the infrastructure existed for most people to work without needing to be in person. No one could party, no one could go to bars, no one could do things. There also used to be a large social stigma to staying at home. If you were at home on a Friday, you were a loser, uncool, not invited to things, and it bothered people, and felt like social exclusion.
With covid, everyone stayed at home. There was no social exclusion by being at home. People worked at home. And suddenly, being social in person was so much less important. You could get a job by applying online and it didn’t require a social network quite the same way, or that network could be online. You could meet someone, date, and procreate online without needing a social network at all. The main thing that mattered, in order to procreate, was whether someone had a stable job and was employable.
Even post-covid, I feel like we’ve had a shift. There are still parties, there are still clubs, there are still bars. They are less required or needed part of society. Not only that, we’ve gone into more of an era of have and have nots, and some people desperate, some people scamming others, and so there are more risks in going out of meeting someone who is problematic. It’s why people prefer driverless robotaxis over regular lyfts and ubers, even when it costs more: it’s not that the driver interaction is bad, it’s that social interactions entail risk and if you are employed and can date using Apps, or have a partner, it’s sometimes simple to avoid that.
Technology is now much more addictive. So many people, myself included, think it’s emotionally healthy to go out and be around people. In the same way I know broccoli is better than candy, I know that people are better than the Internet. But when I am stressed, when I’m annoyed, when life is frustrating, what do I want? I want the Internet and candy, not hanging out and meeting new people.
possibility 2
People have become much more classist as inequality has increasingly risen, partly because perception of being in a lower class carries risk. When the class itself it what causes wealth to increase, people become hyper-aware of perceptions.
It’s possible your friends make more money now and see themselves as better because of their careers and specifically are less responsive because of that. Should that matter in a friendship? No, but does it? Sadly, many people are extraordinarily superficial and cruel and evil. Almost all of us (that use Lemmy) use devices that contain rare earth minerals mined by the ultra-ultra poor who are essentially there in a forced labor situation because no one else will hire them and if they don’t mine rare earth minerals they will die. The conditions are brutal and evil, there could even be actual slavery involved in some cases, and the supply chain is confusing enough that no one knows which devices involve slavery. That’s evil. We are all evil. To those people, we’re the monsters… and they aren’t wrong.
So given that most people are selfish and evil and just care about their own interest, it should not be surprising that these people, if their wealth has increased, don’t care about you anymore. Much like people don’t stop using devices despite slavery involved in the supply chains because fundamentally people choose evil when it’s easier most of the time, you shouldn’t expect people making more money to want to stay in contact with you, because sadly, the only thing that matters in our corrupt evil society is money, apparently.
possibility 3
People are so exhausted from work that they just don’t have time.
Working 40 hours a week is hard as hell. It used to be for most men they worked 40 hours, but also had a full-time assistant at home who cooked, cleaned, shopped, and did other things.
Now if someone wants a family, often both people are working, and more people are single. Wages have not kept up with inflation, so that means if you are single, you often can’t afford a cleaner, a personal shopper, meals being delivered, etc.
The result is chronic exhaustion. Working Mon-Friday, being tired as hell trying to be more and more efficient, because companies have demanded more efficiency to avoid being fired without paying more, and then on your off time, you either scroll Internet to try to decompress, Saturday you just sleep nearly all day and finally have a moment to be exhausted and miserable, and Sunday you catch up on cleaning, shopping, and worry about money, and then Monday the hell starts all over again.
Your friends may be dealing with that, the whole barely treading water thing, and it’s awful.
possibility 4
post covid issues, long covid
A lot of people who got covid developed health issues, and some aren’t obvious. Some are things like, you don’t quite have full on long covid, but you are just more tired all the time. You don’t have chronic fatigue, but your health isn’t as good. It just impacts people. People with such issues aren’t quite disabled, but they aren’t totally functional either. And I bet there are a ton more people like this than say so, because it’s not easy to talk about, there aren’t government benefits for being chronically tired after getting covid if you need to work and it’s not totally debilitating, etc.
I think it’s more likely Possibility 1 and 2. People are going out and partying less (no data to support this, just from going out myself and seeing bars and clubs with fewer people) and people are more classist and drop people who have less money these day. I wouldn’t block these people, but don’t spend any more time on them. Go completely no contact on your end. If they reach out, great, if not, who cares. They will likely not reach out and it will feel like giving up a soda you really like and you’ll get cravings to reach out, but don’t. A month of no contact later, you’ll realize it’s best to not interact with them anymore. The second month will be easier, and by the third you won’t miss them much at all. Force yourself to be uncomfortable and then you’ll be more likely to use meetup.com, go out to bars, do things where you are more likely to interact with new people who will be worth the time.
How is labeling a bug report that is based on user ignorance a lack of empathy? It’s just sometimes factual that users are still learning and make mistakes, and I say this as a low skill FOSS user and enthusiast.
I wasn’t saying that there shouldn’t be housing first… I’m just saying that there are conflicts between religion and religious values and proper resource management
maybe there should be housing first and then cultural and religious problems that lead to resource issues should be sorted out later
Your ignorance of the realities of famines and resource management shows, and it’s fucking pathetic. I am poor, I don’t hate poor people, I am explaining the problem is that religious people refuse to have sensible limits on procreation when there are government handouts. For example, in China, they have sensible procreation policies at times. I don’t support their lack of freedom of speech, but nature and math are realities that can’t be ignored. Clearly, you prefer platitudes and would rather ignore science.
That’s not what I said at all. What I was saying is that if you give free housing and free snap to people, society will have to take care of those children, and there’s a risk of a lot of people who aren’t willing to or aren’t able to work. Possibly with AI and UBI in the future, this won’t matter, but for now, it does. I am also not a wealthy person. I am poor as fuck, have considered suicide because of poverty, and do work hard but have had a lot of tragedy in my life. I am explaining the problem of unregulated free food and housing eventually leads to resource problems. You don’t know me, or what I’ve been though in life, and fuck you.
Unless they use a complex system to look up geolocation for all queries and forward an approximate version of that to Bing, then Bing is getting IP addresses and search terms.
If you do searches on DDG, which is powered by Bing, you get responses that are relevant to your IP-based location, which means something about your IP is being passed to Bing aka Microsoft. That’s how.
It’s duckduckgo. Search duckduckgo.com with the term “restaurants near me.” You’ll often get responses that are close to your IP location.
That couldn’t happen unless DDG passes your IP address on to Bing. It’s possible they censor part of the IP and only pass part of it to Bing, but probably not.
(Go ahead! Try it!)
Since Bing sells to data brokers, data brokers know your IP is linked to a search for rambutan, even without fingerprinting your browser.
I’m not calling duckduckgo.com a honeypot… I’m also not calling it not a honeypot. But it knows too much for something supposedly private.
Any closed source firefox extension that has access to the browser display could be parsing the texts and selling it and your IP and other identifiers to data brokers. It’s part of how these extensions are profitable.
Cloudflare also does highly advanced fingerprinting and has a script called cloudflare insights, so it seems likely that any cloudflare activity is generating marketing data.
You’re wrong about ECT. It nearly always results in permanent memory loss and even if occasionally some patients seem “better” because they remember less of their lives, it does not negate the evil of the treatment. Worse than that, psychiatrist universally deceive patients about the risk of memory loss, saying memory loss is temporary, when most patients who have had ECT report that the memory loss is permanent. There were people who extolled the virtues of lobotomies decades ago and the procedure even won a Nobel Prize. The reason it won a Nobel Prize is because patient experiences mean nothing compared to the avarice of a psuedoscientific discipline that is always looking for the next scam, with the worst most cruel and most expensive scams always inflicted on the most vulnerable. It is hard and traumatic for patients who have been exploited by their supposed “healers” to come forward with the truth. It is incredibly psychologically agonizing to admit to being duped. Patients are not believed then or now. You are completely wrong.
ChatGPT was not designed to provide guidance to suicidal people. The real problem is an exploitative and cruel mental health industry that can lock up suicidal people in horrific locked facilities at huge profits while inflicting additional trauma. There is a reason many people will never call 988 or open up to a mental health clinician about suicidal feelings given how horrible and exploitative locked facilities are. This is not ChatGPT’s fault, it’s the fault of a greedy mental health industry trying to look good, by locking up the suicidal instead of engaging with them, while inflicting traumatic harm on patients.
The elephant in the room that no one talks about is that locked psychiatry facilities treat people so horribly and are so expensive, and psychologists and psychiatrists have such arbitrary power to detain suicidal people, that suicidal people who understand the system absolutely will not open up to professional help about feeling suicidal, lest they be locked up without a cell phone, without being able to do their job, without having access to video games, being billed tens of thousands of dollars per month that can only be discharged by bankruptcy. There is a reason why people online have warned about the risks and expenses of calling suicide hotlines like 988 that regularly attempt to geolocate and imprison people in mental health facilities, with psychiatric medications being required in order for someone to leave.
The problem isn’t ChatGPT. The problem is a financially exploitative psychiatric industry with horrible financial consequences for suicidal patients and horrible degrading facilities that take away basic human dignity at exorbitant cost. The problem is vague standards that officially encourage suicidal patients to snitch on themselves for treatment with the consequence that at the professional’s whim they can be subject to misery and financial exploitation. Many people who go to locked facilities come out with additional trauma and financial burdens. There are no studies about whether such facilities traumatize patients and worsen patient outcomes because no one has a financial interest in funding the studies.
The real problem is, why do suicidal people see a need to confide in ChatGPT instead of mental health professionals or 988? And the answer is because 988 and mental health professionals inflict even more pain and suffering upon people already hurting in variable randomized manner, leading to patient avoidance. (I say randomized in the sense that it is hard for a patient to predict the outcome of when this pain will be inflicted, rather than something predictable like being involuntarily held every 10 visits.) Psychiatry and psychology do everything they possibly can to look good to society (while being paid), but it doesn’t help suicidal people at all who bare the suffering of their “treatments.” Most suicidal patients fear being locked up and removed from society.
This is combined with the fact that although lobotomies are no longer common place, psychiatrists regularly push unethical treatments like ECT which almost always leads to permanent memory loss. Psychiatrist still lie to patients and families regarding ECT about how likely memory loss is, falsely stating memory loss is often temporary and not everyone gets it, just like they lied to patients and families about the effects of lobotomies. People in locked facilities can be pressured into ECT as part of being able to leave a facility, resulting in permanent brain damage. They were charlatans then and now, a so called “science” designed to extract money while looking good with no rigorous studies on how they damage patients.
In fact, if patients could be open about being suicidal with 988 and mental health professionals without fear of being locked up, this person would probably be alive today. ChatGPT didn’t do anything other than be a friend to this person. The failure is due to the mental health industry.
you’re right