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Thanks for looking into this thoroughly, and for correctly noting what’s causing the situation with my specific example.
I contacted Two9A about his weird configuration before I made my original post, but have yet to get a reply from them. The specific example of xkcdsw is a separate issue unrelated to jerboa.
My main question was what is causing http links opened on lemmy through jerboa to redirect to https links - whether that is being done by the app or the instance or what. If it is the intended behavior of the jerboa app, I’m curious as to why it doesn’t leave the protocol up to the commenter.
Did you click the links before telling me that’s not how it works though? Other people are reporting the same result. I also get the same result on both my phone and desktop. Seems like two clicks would be less trouble than finding sources to back up a condescending and inaccurate response.
Here is some information supporting the fact that URLs can work that way (although the two links you quoted but did not click on from my original post already demonstrate that): https://superuser.com/questions/792202/different-website-at-https-then-at-http
Edit: bear in mind that to reproduce the behavior, you might need to type the http into your browser manually if you are using jerboa.
Yeah, I suspect it’s a jerboa problem. I’ve posted about it on the jerboa community now.
Edit: Confirmed. Jerboa’s source code uses a plugin to force all links to be opened as https.
under what circumstances have you peeled a lemon
Relevant xkcdsw (the first link in the comment): https://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/2wx9ws/today_i_discovered_xkcdsw/covb60y/
Now, why the hell would I link to a reddit comment instead of directly to the comic? Because for some reason, xkcdsw links on lemmy turn into links to a dodgy crypto site: http://xkcdsw.com/687
No idea why this happens - I remember this happening a few months back and I assumed that somehow xkcdsw had gotten hacked in between me fetching the link and other people replying, but just now I discovered that it works fine as long as you’re not following the link from my lemmy comment. Also, judging by replies the last time it happened, the direct link from lemmy does still work for some people. I assumed those people on the previous thread got in before the site got hacked, but now I wonder if it’s instance-specific. Is my instance just redirecting certain links to a crypto site for some reason? Or my app (jerboa)?
For those not seeing the redirect, the address bar claims it’s still xkcdsw, but the content appears to be from dogecoinaverage
The actual xkcdsw is just a shitpost, barely worth the two words and one link in my original comment, but the redirect is weird.
Edit: the fact that the link in the reddit comment works even via jerboa’s internal browser makes me think it’s the instance.
Edit 2: previous occurrence of this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/5379893 - it doesn’t seem to be instance-based, as someone on Feddit.de saw the redirect, but someone else on my instance did not
Edit 3: mystery solved(ish) - lemmy is silently changing the http to https (for some reason), which results in a different site (for some reason). I’ve alerted the xkcdsw owner to the problem via mastodon.
Edit 4: this is gonna look really confusing now that two9a has fixed the xkcdsw https situation. Like “what is this comment even talking about?” Trust me, it made sense up until about 10 minutes ago. Oh, also I confirmed that jerboa is the what changes all http links to https.
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I was going to say that’s actually a G K Chesterton quote, but it turns out it’s more complicated than that. Neil Gaiman himself said it was from Chesterton (when quoting it at the start of Coraline), but he wrote it from memory and didn’t double check, so the original is worded differently. At least, that’s how my quick googling claims the paraphrase happened. The misquote is pithier than the original so… is it now a Gaiman quote, even though it originates as an attempted Chesterton quote?
As far as I can tell, the passage he was thinking of was:
Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey. What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon.
they probably fell into an empty enclosure one day and the zookeepers just rolled with it and put up a sign
Are capybaras as chill as their reputation suggests, or is that more a feature of cases that are used to captivity? If the memes/images/videos are to be believed, I’d expect to be able to just wander up to one in the wild and have it respond like a well-socialized pet dog.
I see a lot of cages there - is Scootaloo your only pet that can’t fly?
I think the modern pushback comes from people who get their understanding of technology from science fiction. SF has always (mis)used AI to mean sapient computers.
“Inconvenience” would be the verb for causing an inconvenience. So in the sentence you’re going for, “inconvene” would have to be replaced with the passive “be inconvenienced” (“we’ve gotta be inconvenienced and grovel to google a bit”). I don’t believe we have a separate word for “endure an inconvenience”, although it seems like the kind of thing some languages might have a single word for. Stylistically I’d probably restructure the sentence to “we’ve gotta put up with the inconvenience” rather than just using the passive verb, but yeah.
I think you’d most often see this verb in the stock phrase “Sorry to inconvenience you”.
missed opportunity to mention to volume of a pizza pie with radius z and depth a
After a bit of googling I was able to confirm that it is indeed instance-based.
Thanks. I use jerboa, and I see that we’re on different instances too. I’ll look into it :)
Edit: it’s the instance. Tbh I probably could have figured this out a long time ago just didn’t even know to look into it until I saw someone that seemed to be able to see uncensored words.
Interesting. I could guess that “removed” might be ableist or sexist, but the fact that you were able to pick correctly and confidently suggests it’s not censored for you. Is this specific to my client or instance? Tbh seeing “removed” (in italics) everywhere is one of the things that has annoyed me about using lemmy, and I’d turn it off if I knew how. Not that I’m in favor of slurs, I’d just like to be able to see what people are actually saying and judge them myself.
Aha, thanks! I guess that concludes this thread, as I don’t really expect to get a dev chiming in explaining why.
It’s not my preferred way of handling it but I don’t have the energy to make a fuss. I guess if I click a link that needs to be http, I’ll copy it to a browser, and if I post one I’ll remind others to do the same. Probably won’t come up often enough to care about.
At least you’ve satisfied my curiosity as to what was going on 😀
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