• Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The state is just the abstraction of the collective will of the governed, if the Dutch people have determined this is a crime against their society, then it is.

    The state holds a monopoly on violence, another monopoly isn’t a stretch.

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      6 months ago

      That’s really only in theory. I don’t think there’s any country where the government does what the polis wants in every instance.

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      6 months ago

      For an entity hat already has monopoly over violence, how difficult is it to claim monopoly over the collective will?

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      6 months ago

      Collective will is just the myth that is used to legitimize the state

      The state is also so much more than the will of the governed. To say that it is all there is to it would consider governments like those governed by the divine right of kings fo be stateless. Stalin’s Russia, or Kim Jong Un’s DPRK would then be stateless.

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      6 months ago

      This is only true in a people’s democracy. The Netherlands is capitalist. The government is the collective will of the capitalist class.

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      6 months ago

      What a fantasy world you live in. Must be nice. In truth, the state is a gang of thugs and parasites. Has nothing to do with the collective will of the people, a concept which doesn’t exist in reality.