• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    an omnipotent being can make omelettes without cracking eggs

    Can you prove that?

    these beings are not really as powerful as one imagines them to be!

    If you’re inventing a fictitious being, it can be as powerful or not as you imagine. But if we’re posting a real thing, we’re forced to concede some logical limits.

    “You’re not God because you didn’t do things the way I imagined them to be” doesn’t logically follow. No more than suggesting robots aren’t real because they don’t match what I saw once in an anime.

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      5 months ago

      But if we’re posting a real thing, we’re forced to concede some logical limits.

      ah, so gods do have limits, then, yeah? they aren’t all-powerful? agree?

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        5 months ago

        All-Powerful is a paradoxical claim. You end up with the Hotpocket So Hot You Cannot Eat It.

        And yes, I think we have an abundance of gods scattered across various paradigms and belief systems that are de facto not all powerful. Chronos was murdered by his own son after being tricked into swallowing a rock. Odin had to gouge out his own eye in order to understand the future. Pachamama needs a regular sacrifice of guinea pigs to do her job properly. Even the Abrahamic God(s) have limits, as illustrated by Book of Hosea, chapter 12:3–5, in which the Prophet Jacob beats God’s designated angelic champion in a wrestling match in order to win God’s blessing.

        In fact, I’m challenged to name a god that isn’t limited in some capacity, as originally conceived.