• JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    If you tell Americans outside cosmopolitan cities they must declare themselves publicly as “cis het” or else they’re a bigot (I caricature but only slightly), then you should expect to lose elections.

    And American elections tend to affect other people in the world. That’s why lots of us wish you would let up a bit on this nonsense.

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      23 hours ago

      If you tell Americans outside cosmopolitan cities they must declare themselves publicly as “cis het” or else they’re a bigot

      Nothing even close to that is happening and you’d have to be willfully ignorant to pretend otherwise

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        9 hours ago

        With all due respect, I live in the Midwest and run with some rather blue-collar people in a completely blue, large city.

        Everyone feels as though the Democrats have stopped listening to them and have been yelling at them for the last 10 years.

        And just the mere fact that you are probably going to have the knee jerk reaction and call me an ignorant bigot is part of the problem.

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          8 hours ago

          Everyone feels as though the Democrats have stopped listening to them and have been yelling at them for the last 10 years.

          Feel all they want, its not true not is what was being discussed actually even happening, but go off

          And just the mere fact that you are probably going to have the knee jerk reaction and call me an ignorant bigot is part of the problem.

          Pre-defending yourself just shows you know you’re full of it

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            41 minutes ago

            There you go not listening again, even to the point of saying what people are experiencing isn’t happening.

            So let’s say it’s not happening. Why do so many people feel that way?

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          22 hours ago

          Idiots thinking that because influencers tell them to feel that way =/= it happening, because it’s not

          People are choosing to use those terms and spots for them are being added to things, this isn’t the same as “use them or you’re a bigot” at all and you know it

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            22 hours ago

            IIRC a quarter of the Republican ad spending was on that single ad, “The Democrats are for ‘they/them’, Trump is for YOU”. It was that effective.

            I don’t care much who is right morally. America’s culture wars are almost an irrelevance to me as a foreigner. I care because it’s skewing American elections. Trump is about to pull out of the climate accord and it will be partly because of this. That is just a crazy situation. You guys need to turn down the temperature. On the Democrat side that means less moralizing and hectoring because it is very visibly driving the other side crazy. It’s not worth it.

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              22 hours ago

              IIRC a quarter of the Republican ad spending was on that single ad, “The Democrats are for ‘they/them’, Trump is for YOU”. It was that effective.

              Ok, tell me how that’s the Dems calling anyone who isn’t straightforward with their pronouns a bigot. Oh, wait, it’s an argument being made by the party of lies? Then why blame the Democrats?

              I don’t care much who is right morally

              Cool, I’ll mentally keep you with the other people who think that: Trump supporter. Considering your other points I don’t believe you aren’t one, whether you live here or not, you sure as fuck act like one