• OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
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    29 days ago

    Nobody writes a 920 page manifesto and then at the very end says “Just Kidding!”

    Mass shooters write massive manifestos all the time and nobody takes them seriously. Just because someone writes a manifesto doesn’t mean jack shit will happen with it.

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      29 days ago

      Do they also write 920 pages of manifesto in the form of instructions with no intention of putting themselves at risk? A weeeeee bit of false equivalence there.

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      28 days ago

      Sorry, but I fail to see how we can categorize a mass shooting as “Jack shit happening”. I would actually say that mass shooters are an example that strongly supports OPs sentiment that people who write huge manifestos tend to take action. Maybe they don’t achieve all the lofty goals set out in said manifesto, but that seems like it would be small comfort to the people who got shot.

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        There appears to be a miscommunication. The event/s that they perform happen, but the vision they see for society changing according to their manifesto based on their actions never comes to fruition. They might shoot a bunch of people, but jack shit changes because of it. At the end of the day, it’s basically just weather in the USA.

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          28 days ago

          That’s because those mass shooters don’t have the power to make those changes. The “people” who wrote project 2025 are being given that power.

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            28 days ago

            Nothing that can be done about that through the two-party system. Republicans will always make things worse while Democrats will never make anything better.

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        28 days ago

        Besides killing people, what fundamentally changed because of the Unabomber? What effect did the Unabomber actually have on society besides adding a new high statistic?

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          28 days ago

          Unabomber thought his mainfesto was important enough for the public to see, he resorted to terrorism to gain attention.

          But im not sure what your expecting from a mentally unstable CIA project would do to change society. While the p2025 is a mainfesto for the most powerful people that absolutely can make changes.

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            28 days ago

            Project 2025 is a great boogeyman: an outline of a plan by The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

            People see it and somehow think there’s some grand unified conspiracy to enact it. At the end of the day it is no more or less than a list of goals by a think tank. Worrying about it assumes people in power give a shit about the heritage foundation and/or agree with it, as if Donald Trump gives a shit what anyone besides Donald Trump thinks.

            When any action is taken it’s worthwhile to ask who benefits by it? Who benefits by stoking fear about some shitty essay by bowtie perverts and suit fetishists? The answer is always the Democratic Party, a useless organization that managed to be paid $1.5 billion dollars (and still end up in debt) to lose what should have been the easiest election win in history. Boy I sure wish I could be paid $1.5B by a bunch of dumbasses to be that big a fuck up.

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              It isn’t a conspiracy to enact it, several politicians with the power to influence policy have said they will implement it. This isn’t some secret document conspiracy theorists are blowing up, this is real policy guidelines.

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              Trump is a brain dead puppet that will rubberstamp anything put in front of him. All they have to do is convince him itll make him popular on tv. Its not really hard. And facism benefits a lot of people… why do you think it’s repeatedly tried?

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      29 days ago

      Do the mass shooters then hire the same people that helped them write the manifesto? You know, to shoot more people or run the government or something?

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      They’ve started off as such a clusterfuck I feel Project 2025 may well fall into an unrealized manifesto.

      Despite being far better prepared, his minions still have to fight their way through his know-it-all, do-as-I-say attitude.