• LovableSidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
    63·
    7 days ago

    Making “smart” devices that can’t do routine mundane things without an active internet connection is completely fucking stupid.

  • contrapunctus@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    521·
    7 days ago

    The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.

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    • LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      11·
      7 days ago

      I mean… Electronics and the Internet are also following the laws of physics. But I get what you mean, levers should be the only activation, and gravity should be the only requirement.

      That being said, electronics in our devices do tend to reduce the amount of water and power that appliances use. Dumb devices are extremely inefficient, even though there are fewer points of failure.

      It sucks that a 1950’s fridge can still function just fine today, but it also is a bigger strain on the power grid, and a leak in the refrigerant would destroy the ozone.

      • sugarfoot00@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        7 days ago

        > That being said, electronics in our devices do tend to reduce the amount of water and power that appliances use. Dumb devices are extremely inefficient, even though there are fewer points of failure.

        I fail to see how electronics in these (unpowered) devices in any way reduce the amount of power that they use.

      • Lexi Sneptaur@pawb.socialEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        Yeah I think the meaning of the above comment boils down to “If it doesn’t have a simple fallback, it can’t be trusted”.

    • ace_of_based@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      7 days ago

      You’re already @ the mf toilet too, or the sink. what is even the purported purpose of remotely activating something you have to stand there to use?

    • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      7 days ago

      I can see some purpose in having a ‘smart’ toilet for monitoring health. Your pee and poo can have some value in seeing if there anything that needs to be dealt with medically. But even that is difficult to do. For one thing, it must still function ad a toilet first before anything. Meaning it uses the simple mechanical flushing and refilling and stopping when it is sufficiently full.

      However for this the analysis and storage of data must be 100% at the user’s control. If they want it gone. It is gone. Irrecoverable. Any update must be done via USB or other connection. No wifi or internet.

      And even then the analysis can be off for obvious reasons. People need to scrub their toilets and some keep it clean by having one of those pucks in the tank that sanitize the water. All of these can interfere with any results out of a medical setting.

      • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world
        2·
        6 days ago

        Yeah but if they let users control the data then how are they supposed to sell it to insurance companies to boost their value to VCs???

  • kamen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    7 days ago

    Okay, I get the idea of smart AC for example - be elsewhere, turn it on remotely so that it’s comfortable when you get home. Fine. But a toilet? You are physically present there, you can push a button to flush. Or are you telling me that you’re shitting remotely now too?

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      7 days ago

      Wait, so you’re not subscribed to shitme™? For a low monthly subscription they send you a sealed, self-addressed and postage-paid container to deposit your feces in, it gets sent to a sorting facility and distributed via drones or delivery drivers directly to your home toilet, where the feces are flushed in the privacy and safety of your own home! The peace-of-mind alone is worth the $39.98 a month. Up until now, the only challenge has been flushing the toilet while you’re still at the office, this way you NEVER have to go home!

    • DerArzt@lemmy.world
      6·
      7 days ago

      you’re shitting remotely now too?

      Do we tell them about the remote shit technology that just landed from Uranus?

      • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub
        2·
        6 days ago

        It’s not that great anyway. Your local toilet will surreptitiously grab and analyze your poop, dispose of it so you don’t need to flush, and have the remote toilet extrude an identical copy someone else has to flush.

    • TheHotze@lemmy.world
      2·
      6 days ago

      Hands free means you don’t have to touch the handle with dirty hands, but you can do that with a motion sensor too.

  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
    13·
    6 days ago

    Maybe it needs a connection cause it takes a picture of your feces and sends it to an AI analysis service. If anomalies are detected, it tells you that you should take the stool sample to a laboratory for further study, then lets you flush. Poof, smart toilet. I could see people with too much money buying this.

    Edit: Thought about it some more… why stop at feces images? Why not also have a high resolution camera pointed at your anus taking crowning shots and analyzing those. Tell users if anythings wrong. The future is bright brown boys. The future is brown.

    Edit2: You could even have motion based security… alert if anyone broke in through your bathroom. Cameras in toilets people! What could go wrong?

    Edit3: Hear me out. User controlled bidet mode + anus camera. Take out your phone and clean your ass in first person. Score points if you clean your whole ass and compete on an online scoreboard. Tech sure is amazing.

  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
    172·
    6 days ago

    Day 3,801 of thanking God I was born a Luddite

    Anyone who thought their toilet would be improved by having an internet connection deserves this

  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    7 days ago

    And yet I hear dumbshits bragging all time about how alexa controls my (insert thing that definitely does not need automation here).

    These sort of people never think beyond tomorrow and it shows.

  • burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml
    5·
    7 days ago

    I think that any electromechanical system that does not allow a mechanical override or at least a redundancy are doomed to fail. I don’t know why these IOT entrepreneurs don’t take in account that software and electronics are faulty systems, ignoring decades of experience in the subject.

    • jcg@halubilo.social
      4·
      7 days ago

      Nah I’m an innovator! I’ll just innovate a better chip that’ll never fail and software that has no bugs!

      Proceeds to put Linux on a common SoC and load it with shoddy software from a low paid contractor.