This way you basically made out a scooter out of your bike, that is what the regulation probably want to avoid.
And that is exactly the point: The regulation doesn’t make any sense. It is the same vehicle. Me pedalling doesn’t bring any safety improvement. It’s not suddenly a scooter, it’s the same vehicle.
There are a lot of countries where throttles on eBikes are legal and they do not have much problems either. So yeah, there might be a big legal difference, but that is totally arbitrary and we could do better.
Me pedalling doesn’t bring any safety improvement.
It does, as stopping your bike from 25 km/h will occur more often if no pedaling is required and thus, the brakes (or the rim) may overheat. Many pedelecs (“E-Bikes”) do still have rim brakes or their disc brakes have smaller dimensions than required for proper e-bike with throttle.
Not really - I’m going 25km/h if I’m pedaling and I would go 25km/h with a throttle. And bike manufacturers fitting underpowered brakes on eBikes is an issue for another regulation?
And how many time you reach 25 km/h while pedaling and how many time you reach 25 km/h with a throttle ?
Have you ever ridden an eBike? It’s totally easy to reach 25km/h by pedalling. It’s also possible to reach that speed (and to go over that) on a normal bicycle without a motor
Yes, exactly this is what makes e-bikes so unpredictable in traffic. While a normal biker is unlikely to bing 350 W onto the street every time they start, it’s a piece of cake with an e-bike. Additionally, as e-bikes legally count as regular bikes, they are subject to the same slack safety standards and e-bike manufacturers regularly have been criticised e.g. by Stiftung Warentest for failing components.
I reach it every time. You do not need much pedal assist to reach the max. And if I’m on my road bike without a motor, I’m even faster. And I communte by bicycle and can tell you: 25km/h is the default speed for eBikes
And that is exactly the point: The regulation doesn’t make any sense. It is the same vehicle. Me pedalling doesn’t bring any safety improvement. It’s not suddenly a scooter, it’s the same vehicle.
There are a lot of countries where throttles on eBikes are legal and they do not have much problems either. So yeah, there might be a big legal difference, but that is totally arbitrary and we could do better.
It does, as stopping your bike from 25 km/h will occur more often if no pedaling is required and thus, the brakes (or the rim) may overheat. Many pedelecs (“E-Bikes”) do still have rim brakes or their disc brakes have smaller dimensions than required for proper e-bike with throttle.
Not really - I’m going 25km/h if I’m pedaling and I would go 25km/h with a throttle. And bike manufacturers fitting underpowered brakes on eBikes is an issue for another regulation?
And how many time you reach 25 km/h while pedaling and how many time you reach 25 km/h with a throttle ?
If they become a danger to the others then yes.
Have you ever ridden an eBike? It’s totally easy to reach 25km/h by pedalling. It’s also possible to reach that speed (and to go over that) on a normal bicycle without a motor
Yes, exactly this is what makes e-bikes so unpredictable in traffic. While a normal biker is unlikely to bing 350 W onto the street every time they start, it’s a piece of cake with an e-bike. Additionally, as e-bikes legally count as regular bikes, they are subject to the same slack safety standards and e-bike manufacturers regularly have been criticised e.g. by Stiftung Warentest for failing components.
Yes.
I didn’t ask if it is possible but how many times you reach that speed while pedaling versus how many time you reach it using the throttle.
I reach it every time. You do not need much pedal assist to reach the max. And if I’m on my road bike without a motor, I’m even faster. And I communte by bicycle and can tell you: 25km/h is the default speed for eBikes
Not according to the road code, evidentely
Yeah and I’m criticizing the road code.