This way you basically made out a scooter out of your bike, that is what the regulation probably want to avoid.
And that is exactly the point: The regulation doesn’t make any sense. It is the same vehicle. Me pedalling doesn’t bring any safety improvement. It’s not suddenly a scooter, it’s the same vehicle.
There are a lot of countries where throttles on eBikes are legal and they do not have much problems either. So yeah, there might be a big legal difference, but that is totally arbitrary and we could do better.
Me pedalling doesn’t bring any safety improvement.
It does, as stopping your bike from 25 km/h will occur more often if no pedaling is required and thus, the brakes (or the rim) may overheat. Many pedelecs (“E-Bikes”) do still have rim brakes or their disc brakes have smaller dimensions than required for proper e-bike with throttle.
Not really - I’m going 25km/h if I’m pedaling and I would go 25km/h with a throttle. And bike manufacturers fitting underpowered brakes on eBikes is an issue for another regulation?
And how many time you reach 25 km/h while pedaling and how many time you reach 25 km/h with a throttle ?
Have you ever ridden an eBike? It’s totally easy to reach 25km/h by pedalling. It’s also possible to reach that speed (and to go over that) on a normal bicycle without a motor
I reach it every time. You do not need much pedal assist to reach the max. And if I’m on my road bike without a motor, I’m even faster. And I communte by bicycle and can tell you: 25km/h is the default speed for eBikes
Yes, exactly this is what makes e-bikes so unpredictable in traffic. While a normal biker is unlikely to bing 350 W onto the street every time they start, it’s a piece of cake with an e-bike. Additionally, as e-bikes legally count as regular bikes, they are subject to the same slack safety standards and e-bike manufacturers regularly have been criticised e.g. by Stiftung Warentest for failing components.
And that is exactly the point: The regulation doesn’t make any sense. It is the same vehicle. Me pedalling doesn’t bring any safety improvement. It’s not suddenly a scooter, it’s the same vehicle.
There are a lot of countries where throttles on eBikes are legal and they do not have much problems either. So yeah, there might be a big legal difference, but that is totally arbitrary and we could do better.
Not according to the road code, evidentely
Yeah and I’m criticizing the road code.
It does, as stopping your bike from 25 km/h will occur more often if no pedaling is required and thus, the brakes (or the rim) may overheat. Many pedelecs (“E-Bikes”) do still have rim brakes or their disc brakes have smaller dimensions than required for proper e-bike with throttle.
Not really - I’m going 25km/h if I’m pedaling and I would go 25km/h with a throttle. And bike manufacturers fitting underpowered brakes on eBikes is an issue for another regulation?
And how many time you reach 25 km/h while pedaling and how many time you reach 25 km/h with a throttle ?
If they become a danger to the others then yes.
Have you ever ridden an eBike? It’s totally easy to reach 25km/h by pedalling. It’s also possible to reach that speed (and to go over that) on a normal bicycle without a motor
Yes.
I didn’t ask if it is possible but how many times you reach that speed while pedaling versus how many time you reach it using the throttle.
I reach it every time. You do not need much pedal assist to reach the max. And if I’m on my road bike without a motor, I’m even faster. And I communte by bicycle and can tell you: 25km/h is the default speed for eBikes
Yes, exactly this is what makes e-bikes so unpredictable in traffic. While a normal biker is unlikely to bing 350 W onto the street every time they start, it’s a piece of cake with an e-bike. Additionally, as e-bikes legally count as regular bikes, they are subject to the same slack safety standards and e-bike manufacturers regularly have been criticised e.g. by Stiftung Warentest for failing components.