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Wake me up when S̶e̶p̶t̶e̶m̶b̶e̶r̶ your charade ends
Why are they all fucking saying September?
It’s a mutually agreed deadline for Trump to stop screwing around with tariffs and torching international agreements.
If he doesn’t reverse or change his policy by then, all these shill countries will stop following US foreign policy demands.
Notice how these are all significant military partners and customers of the US as well (UK. France, Germany, Australia, etc).
Something to do with the UN schedule.
The UN already recognizes Palestine. Countries could recognise it now if they wanted to.
They prepare the plan with israrl and the collaborators to meet thr conditions that carney mentionned. Basically we get rid of hamas , we let the palestinians autority have fake control on gaza and the west bank then let israel continue occupation
What the fuck is this! A teaser trailer? Just fucking get on with it.
Hey, no need to hurry with these pointless (in short term) actions. I’m sure palestians won’t mind another month of genocide to be recognized which will change exactly nothing for them.
Again, all these countries will recognise it in September because that’s when they can make it official at the UN. It’s not delayed because fun.
And again, this small decision doesn’t exonerate them from taking other ones until then.
This is a good thing and shitting on it is what is pointless.
Shit on the governments for not taking other actions, not for taking this one.
It’s a pacifier for people like you, you get to relax and say look they’re finally doing something, but they’re doing nothing of value. Palestinians don’t want a state on the ruins of Gaza or the ghettos that remain in the West Bank, we want a free Palestine from the river to the sea, for all regardless is religion.
Anything short of fully dismantling the occupation, reparations, and the right of return for all the refugees that want to return is just the current situation with extra steps.
But the government is distracting public with such actions. Let me put it like this: Imagine your house is on fire, a fireman, which provided and provides fuel to the arsonist, strolls by and tells you that by next week they will pour a glass of water on your house.
That’s a terrible comparison. I get your point, and as I said, you can shit on them for selling weapons, you can shit on them for not doing anything to stop the genocide.
But shitting on them for making the decision to recognise the state of Palestine is like shitting on the government for increasing the budget of the fire department, because it’s not helping your house burning down right now.
Asking palestinians to disarm without any guarentee to stop isrsel occupation is so ridiculous and dangerous. We won’t fall from western propaganda like you
I never supported that, did I?
The countries you believe that they really believe in a two state solution support that
Again, I didn’t support anything else than the decision to recognise the state of Palestine, I have no idea what you’re trying to argue with me about
I have no idea what you’re trying to argue with me about
I am arguying the idea that conditional recognition of palestine is possible. The conditions onñy help israel occupation and hurt palestinians rights like the right for an army to protect itself
Nobody cares about recognition start sanctioning Israel.
Actually, it’s pretty important they are recognised.
Right now, Israel is de jure attacking ‘nobody’, obviously from a de facto pov, they are attacking the two ‘states/cantons/provinces’ of Palestine, but that isn’t a recognised country.
Recognizing Palestine as a sovereign nation is incredibly important.
Sanctions against Israel are a lot easier to legislate when they’re attacking a recognised country (and should be effective unlike Russian danctions, as Israel doesn’t have Xi to lean on for support, their support base IS the west)
Palestine is a recognized country according to the UN.
as Israel doesn’t have Xi to lean on for support
yea, israel only has the unconditional support of the worlds largest and most influent economy, ruled by a guy who would die before sanctioning genocide…
not sure i see your point
The west is more than USA.
Taco won’t sanction Israel, no. But that doesn’t mean the rest of us shouldn’t.
Yeah but they’re usually not recognizing any territory with it.
Sanctions against Israel are already incredibly easy to legislate. Western countries simply refuse to do so.
Israel is comitting a genocide, a conditional state recognition stripping even more right from palestinians has no wffect on how easy it is to sanction israel
The survivors of Israeli genocide are free right now.
